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06-08-2014, 09:35 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Big Apple,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Nissan
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Head 2 Head Kit cars: Cobra 427 SC vs. Caterham 7 620R
Which car would you pick for the ultimate raw driving WOT experience, street or track?
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06-08-2014, 10:51 PM
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Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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I have driven a cobra, so I would like to try the other...
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06-09-2014, 03:54 AM
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silly question and WHY???
NewYorkGuy Come on. It's a silly question. On the street, drive the cobra. On a small track Caterham 7. Also it depends on what motor is in both. Alot cheaper to wreck a Caterham 7 than a cobra. Speed feel goes to Caterham. Have one with a double or triple Wankel motor and the cobra doesn't stand a chance. Have seen this many years ago in Northeaster Challenge. Rick L.
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06-09-2014, 05:03 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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For 20K you can experience the Birkin/Caterham for yourself
Having owned both, the Cobra has a more raw feel, while the Birkin/Caterham is like driving a giant go-cart. Power is more linear in the 7, being powered by a 168hp 2.0L Zetec motor. The Cobra however rides nicer and is more desirable from an owners standpoint.......
Bill S.
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06-09-2014, 05:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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I have driven both and in fact sell both.
95% of the people who see the Caterham have no idea what it is, 95% of people know the Cobra.
On track, the Cat hands down. It is a "rat with sneakers on" while the Cobra is more of a broadsword as compared to the the Cat being a fencing foil.
They really don't compare and 99% of the people who buy a Caterham would never give the Cobra a second's consideration. And pretty much the other way around also.
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06-09-2014, 05:37 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Ex CSX3327, & AK7113 AutoKraft AC MK IV
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So sayeth the oracle...that is about the size of it having years ago experienced both. Two entirely different design philosophies, both ending in a motoring experiece , thatis different.
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06-09-2014, 11:43 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
They really don't compare and 99% of the people who buy a Caterham would never give the Cobra a second's consideration. And pretty much the other way around also.
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I'm in the latter group. With all due respect to Caterham owners, manufacturers and dealers, the Caterham looks like a cigarette butt on wheels. The Caterham looks like a reject from the Great Gatsby era.
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06-09-2014, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Drove a Cat 7 with near 620R performance due to mods by the owner at an autocross. Amazing...makes morons look better even when they lose it. Obviously, my ass and gut made it a tight fit, so it would never be an everyday or track choice for me...a minute at a time was even tough.
All round bet is the Cobra.
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06-09-2014, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
Drove a Cat 7 with near 620R performance due to mods by the owner at an autocross. Amazing...makes morons look better even when they lose it. Obviously, my ass and gut made it a tight fit, so it would never be an everyday or track choice for me...a minute at a time was even tough.
All round bet is the Cobra.
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So Jamo you want the "SV" body option with 15% more butt-hugging room.............
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06-09-2014, 02:11 PM
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Hehehe...yup, sat in one of those, but didn't help too much. Probably have to do what I did for the tin can...go to the factory and have one done for me like a good pair of shoes.
I can get into just about anything (stuck in the Kirkham's original GT40 with the doors closed for an hour while everyone was having lunch until computerworks noticed me, and even a Legends car), but getting out can be ugly.
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06-09-2014, 02:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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So Jamo you want the "SV" body option with 15% more butt-hugging room.............
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I've met Jamo, owned and driven enough 7's (including my current), I'd say even the SV body will be tight for him (no offense Jamo). I could not imagine him in a regular body Caterham or Birkin.
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06-09-2014, 02:19 PM
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Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
I have driven both and in fact sell both.
95% of the people who see the Caterham have no idea what it is, 95% of people know the Cobra.
On track, the Cat hands down. It is a "rat with sneakers on" while the Cobra is more of a broadsword as compared to the the Cat being a fencing foil.
They really don't compare and 99% of the people who buy a Caterham would never give the Cobra a second's consideration. And pretty much the other way around also.
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I'm in that 1% group. 
Love the lotus7s.
In fact next car on the horizon is a Elfin T5.
A modern day Cat. Google it. Just incomparable agility through the twisty bits.
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06-09-2014, 02:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Bill...none taken.
I can "get small" for short periods...helped that it had a quick release steering wheel.
It's funny, I thought I could never get into an Atom, and told the guy showing them at the Historics several years ago. Then I heard a familiar voice to my right saying I could...Leno, standing right next to my wife (we were waiting around for Sunshine...the real one, not the McMahon replica) He had just taken delivery on one...I think it was the first one sold to the public. So I tried right then and there. Surprisingly easy ingress/egress.
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