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06-04-2014, 02:34 PM
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This is What Pisses me Off!!!!!!
I'm leaving for the Montreal F1 race and I check out Hemmings posts of the day. In the corner is an ad for this Cobra. See this is what pisses me off big time....see the title description.... 1965 SHELBY COBRA 427 SHELBY SEMI COMPETITON
NO WHERE IS THERE A KIRKHAM, REPLICA, OR CONTINUATION IN THE TITLE!!!
This is why guys should be descriptive of what they have and not just post Cobra in a for sale ad.
What the hell is this Cobra anyway? Obviously reading it it is built by Kirkham. Oh it was built by a celebrity CEO or do you mean for one.
Built above a CSX continuation cobra standards....
Nice looking Kirkham.....I guess but not a 1965 Shelby Cobra as title states.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...a/1655406.html
Wasting time reading that when in a rush...wasting time writing this...wasting your time reading this.
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06-04-2014, 02:42 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former owner of Long Live the Bow tie Contemporary #102 427 Chevy .30 over Merlin heads 11to1, TBI injection
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Nice car. You get pissed off too easy.
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06-04-2014, 02:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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What makes me mad are bogus dyno numbers like that. 640 lbft? Yeah, whatever...
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06-05-2014, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
What makes me mad are bogus dyno numbers like that. 640 lbft? Yeah, whatever...
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What makes you think a FE specialties aluminum 462 can't get you that level of torque?
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06-04-2014, 02:52 PM
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No. Onyx is right. The car is being misrepresented Thor may not remember, but there was a (valid) suit against several kit makers who used "Shelby" and "Cobra" in their ads. It is not only lying, it's illegal. Shelby and Cobra are registered trademarks.
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06-04-2014, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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The polished aluminum would have been the immeadiate give-away that it's not an original. (although someone out there MAY have polished their original, but I doubt the original bodies are fair enough for that )
That said, I too dislike Cobra REPLICAS being touted as "Shelbys".
Except, of course, the actual "Shelby Replicas".
And now, wait for "Real One" to chime in !!
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06-04-2014, 03:28 PM
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Best of Best means,"You can't replace any single component with another component that is better"
Uh, really? So, a stainless steel frame and magnesium Halibrand's would not be considered even better? Just says "carpet". What type of carpet? I hate hyperbole. And no engine pics? I'd like to nit-pick on some things there. Maybe there's a real LS7 under the hood.
As far as the title being misleading, YAWN. Get in line. It's buyer beware anyway, but I can't imagine someone being snookered in 2014.
Anyway, that's one beautiful "hot rod shaped like a Cobra." 
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06-04-2014, 03:43 PM
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Did they edit the ad? It says it is titled as a Kirkham. I think people just think of the name as being a Shelby Cobra not realizing Shelby is an actual brand name.
Agreed on the "best of the best" statement. There are quite a few engine items I am not sure are the best by a long shot. They are quite good, but I doubt the "best".
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06-04-2014, 04:45 PM
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ust In Time For The 4th of July!
Absolutely the Best Of The Best Build.
Here it is , Built by a Celebrity CEO in California in 2009/ 2010 at cost no object.
Titled as a 1965 Kirkham Cobra
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06-04-2014, 05:35 PM
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Have to agree with the OP. I also find it annoying when im trawling You-Tube to find 100s of videos, that turn out to be sales ads stating '1965 Shelby Cobra'....and then its an FFR...or SPF or whatever. Nought wrong with replicas, but if its a replica, it aint a 1965 Shelby Cobra.
Maybe things get titled different in the US? In the UK you have to get the car registered for what it is.... a Dax, Crendon, Hawk or Kirkham etc.
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06-04-2014, 05:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance MkIII (2995), Ford 460/521, Ted Taormina build
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I think this is the Kirkham that was built for Larry Ellison. But yeah, a lot of ads really dance around the truth, don't they?
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06-04-2014, 06:28 PM
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Onyx, I hope you don't waste any time looking under the "1965 Shelby Cobra" heading on eBay.
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06-04-2014, 06:34 PM
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Larry Ellison's "million dollar skunkworks cobra" had a golden brown leather interior and I very much doubt that it would be sold for $155,000. OBO.
Bob
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06-04-2014, 06:59 PM
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OR,
U will have more luck finding a real cobra at F1 races & crowd.
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06-04-2014, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clayboy
Larry Ellison's "million dollar skunkworks cobra" had a golden brown leather interior and I very much doubt that it would be sold for $155,000. OBO.
Bob
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Very likely not the Ellison Cobra for the reasons above and as I recall, Keith Craft built the motor, not FE Specialties.
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06-04-2014, 07:17 PM
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That's why I listed mine on EBay as KMP259 which is a Kirkham but in Illinois it's registered as a 1965 Ford Coupe. But I listed. All of the modifications we did as opposed to just a Kirkham vehicle. And we can list 2 separate web sites to show the build process.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111371052732...84.m1555.l2649
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06-05-2014, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
That's why I listed mine on EBay as KMP259 which is a Kirkham but in Illinois it's registered as a 1965 Ford Coupe. But I listed. All of the modifications we did as opposed to just a Kirkham vehicle. And we can list 2 separate web sites to show the build process.....
Shelby Kirkham 427 Roadster Morris Aero Package | eBay |
An absolute bargain, knowing what's gone into it. 
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06-05-2014, 06:40 PM
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An absolute bargain, knowing what's gone into it. |
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And that's including all of the spares......Diff,Wheels,Rotors & Pads, Cluthes and many other items.....
I'm having a hard time with feeling in my feet.....makes driving KMP259 a real chore....it needs someone to take it to the next level......maybe soon.....
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06-06-2014, 10:42 AM
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Fatboy
And that's including all of the spares......Diff,Wheels,Rotors & Pads, Cluthes and many other items.....
I'm having a hard time with feeling in my feet.....makes driving KMP259 a real chore....it needs someone to take it to the next level......maybe soon.....
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A steal considering the quality of construction and parts used, duplicating it would be very difficult and cost prohibitive.
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06-06-2014, 07:24 PM
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A steal considering the quality of construction and parts used, duplicating it would be very difficult and cost prohibitive.
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Bruce
We appreciate the builds we all go thru....but I'm sure some just don't care.....or understand the efforts that go into these cars.....
I can't fathom how much money and time you have gone thru with your Cobra and stayed with it for a long time......good for you....it truly is a labor of love....
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