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mikeinatlanta 10-15-2014 05:41 PM

Larger side vent opening
 
I remember seeing an image way back of a race cobra with significantly enlarged side vents. Would anyone here happen to have any images of old race cobras with this modification?

Thanks,
Mike

mickmate 10-15-2014 07:19 PM

LeMans cars CS 2131 (39PH) Thay also doubled as an oil drain ;-).

LMH 10-15-2014 08:51 PM

2142 next to it also had the vents. I sure wish 2131 still looked like that!
Larry

LMH 10-15-2014 08:53 PM

http://www.cobracars.be/_wp_generated/wp06a02bf3.jpg

mickmate 10-16-2014 04:07 AM

They were the first Cobras to get louvers. The wheels were D type Jag I believe. The trunk lid hinged on the bottom edge with a half lid because of the hard top with a tube from a roof fuel filler to the body location. One of the 3 had two hinged half trunk lids. A lot of screws held the rear window in as they wanted to suck out at speed.

mikeinatlanta 10-16-2014 05:11 AM

Thanks guys. The ones I am looking for were larger than that and didn't have louvers. The opening was much larger and not a parallelogram. I'm thinking it was on a couple of later race cars.

LMH 10-16-2014 07:05 AM

There has been custom work done on lots of original cars over the years, even back in the day but as far as I know no car was produced with a larger vent than the ones pictured. Maybe "The Turd"???
Larry

mikeinatlanta 10-16-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMH (Post 1322537)
There has been custom work done on lots of original cars over the years, even back in the day but as far as I know no car was produced with a larger vent than the ones pictured. Maybe "The Turd"???
Larry

That's why I called it a mod. It was not production, but on some cars raced back in the 60s.
Thanks,
Mike

mikeinatlanta 10-16-2014 11:01 AM

Kind of like this but on a cobra
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...Z-8g42-_M1xA2w

Morris 10-16-2014 05:18 PM

The testing that we have done reveals that no air comes out of those vents.....in fact the area is a turblent area because the width of the front wheels....

Morris

mickmate 10-16-2014 06:16 PM

Glad you weighed in Morris, so you think nose air goes out the bottom?
2048 had some big rectangular doors at the bottom rear of the front fenders. They could be opened and closed to supposedly flow some air.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psbbd6b0f3.jpg

LMH 10-16-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1322518)
They were the first Cobras to get louvers. The wheels were D type Jag I believe. The trunk lid hinged on the bottom edge with a half lid because of the hard top with a tube from a roof fuel filler to the body location. One of the 3 had two hinged half trunk lids. A lot of screws held the rear window in as they wanted to suck out at speed.

E-Type wheels Nick, from the light weight (LWE). Dunlop produced both but the D wheel was a two piece with round vent holes. The centers were riveted to the outer rim. E type wheels were one piece with rectangular "slot" (10) vent holes.
Larry

mikeinatlanta 10-17-2014 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris (Post 1322617)
The testing that we have done reveals that no air comes out of those vents.....in fact the area is a turblent area because the width of the front wheels....

Morris

You mean testing with your configuration. You have not tested with mine. :rolleyes: My aerodynamics aren't even remotely similar to any other Cobra.

I'm just wanting to see some old pics of the big openings too see how they looked.

Thanks,
Mike

LMH 10-17-2014 07:18 AM

Some Austin Healey's were modified with a vent behind the front wheels. Kind of nice looking in a sort-of-triangular style. I can look for a couple pics later.
Larry

mikeinatlanta 10-17-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMH (Post 1322681)
Some Austin Healey's were modified with a vent behind the front wheels. Kind of nice looking in a sort-of-triangular style. I can look for a couple pics later.
Larry

That would be great.
Thanks,
Mike

cycleguy55 10-17-2014 08:14 AM

Those look like they're far enough back to open into the foot wells, rather than trying to vent the engine compartment or wheel wells. Good idea, though certainly not something often seen. Obviously more appropriate on a street car than a competition car - as they certainly look like they'd induce some drag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1322623)
2048 had some big rectangular doors at the bottom rear of the front fenders. They could be opened and closed to supposedly flow some air.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psbbd6b0f3.jpg


cycleguy55 10-17-2014 08:18 AM

Interesting to see the different brake cooling openings on CSX2131 - large cutouts under the parking / turn signal lamps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1322479)
LeMans cars CS 2131 (39PH) Thay also doubled as an oil drain ;-).


xlr8tr 10-17-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeinatlanta (Post 1322662)
You mean testing with your configuration. You have not tested with mine. :rolleyes: My aerodynamics aren't even remotely similar to any other Cobra.

I'm just wanting to see some old pics of the big openings too see how they looked.

Thanks,
Mike

Hey Mike, curious to see what's different about your aero setup, do you have any pictures?

Cheers,

mikeinatlanta 10-17-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8tr (Post 1322699)
Hey Mike, curious to see what's different about your aero setup, do you have any pictures?

Cheers,

Rear looking forward. If you look closely, in front of the passenger footbox, you can see a triangular vent. It is on both sides and vents the header heat under the car. The diffuser continues to forward of the rear tires.
http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...00_-600x450.jp

Here is the vent up close. It's the same on both sides.
http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...0_-600x450.jpg

Ram air system
http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...25-600x450.jpg

Radiator ducting
http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...29-600x450.jpg

Footbox and underhood sheet metal.
http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...0_-600x450.jpg

And a whole lot more.

http://dynashield.com/sitebuilder/im...1_-600x450.jpg

J.Jensen 10-17-2014 01:34 PM

What have you done up front to keep it down as well at high speeds? Do you have any calculations on your diffusor on what speed it becomes effective at?


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