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xb-60 08-09-2015 05:30 PM
Healey 100 with BB Olds....and Cobra-like nose
 
Some might have seen this on spookypt's Period Transporter (Aus) Suggestions thread.

There is a link there to "the green Goddess" (a fire truck) and in there, there's a link to "Tom Schnerk's Big Block Oldsmobile Powered 1954 Austin Healey 100", a car which some of you CA residents may know.

"Date Completed: Engine installed in 1957. Body mods in 1964. Restored in 2000"....so this thing pre-dates the 260 Cobra by a number of years :)

Here's the link:

Tom Schnerk's Big Block Oldsmobile Powered 1954 Austin Healey 100

And here's a quickie of what it looks like...

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...psdhtabtfb.jpg

Body mods were done in 1964, with some inspiration in the nose from the Cobra ....although it looks more 427-like in the nose opening than 289

Cheers,
Glen

HealeyRick 08-09-2015 06:08 PM
This is personally one of my favorite V8 Healeys. I talk by email with Tom every once in a while and he's an old school hot rodder. Just like the guys Shelby enlisted for the Cobra. One of his hot rodding tricks was to weld pie shaped iron plate behind the 48 spoke wire wheels to get them to take the torque of that big-block Olds.

xb-60 08-09-2015 07:11 PM
Rick - was the nose shape (what looks like a Cobra 427 opening) done in 1964, pre-dating the 427 Cobra? It's an impressive - and quite historical - hotrod!

Cheers,
Glen

HealeyRick 08-09-2015 07:26 PM
Glen,

Here's a more detailed account of Tom's car and the nose mod: OldsmobileHealey Looks like the 427's had been introduced before the mod was done. Don't know if you saw this, but there's some more Healey tie-in with the 427 Cobra: http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-...onnection.html

xb-60 08-09-2015 10:38 PM
Great information and a good read. Thanks Rick.

Cheers,
Glen

750hp 08-10-2015 02:55 AM
As soon as I read the subject line, I knew you'd be all over this Rick!
I'm also a bit partial to a V8 Healey and I can appreciate the history of this car, but I really like the unmodified body shape of the Healeys. I'd argue that the big Healeys are a better looking car than the CSX2000 Cobras.

xb-60 08-10-2015 03:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 750hp (Post 1358590)
As soon as I read the subject line, I knew you'd be all over this Rick!
I'm also a bit partial to a V8 Healey and I can appreciate the history of this car, but I really like the unmodified body shape of the Healeys. I'd argue that the big Healeys are a better looking car than the CSX2000 Cobras.
I agree Craig. Who can criticize the intent and the execution, but I personally prefer the standard Healey 100 nose.

Rick - I've always thought an SBF in an MGA would be a good idea. Has this act of b@stardry ever been done to your knowledge :D ?

Cheers,
Glen

750hp 08-10-2015 04:36 AM
Glen, let me clarify that I was talking about CSX2... slab side street cars; the FIA and comp cars have that tougher muscular look ;)

V8 conversions are always a laugh. That Britishv8.org site is a classic!

mdross1 08-10-2015 04:48 AM
Sure do see the 427 Cobra cues in this car. Back in the day also considered doing a V8 swap into an MG till I discovered the fiberglass replica kits. Also back then looked at a small block Cobra that had been driven year round up here in the Northeast. Seeing the aluminum to frame interface severe corrosion along the frame rails sure was a wakeup call. It was then that I learned how bad is was to have aluminum and steel together.

xb-60 08-10-2015 05:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdross1 (Post 1358615)
Sure do see the 427 Cobra cues in this car. Back in the day also considered doing a V8 swap into an MG till I discovered the fiberglass replica kits. Also back then looked at a small block Cobra that had been driven year round up here in the Northeast. Seeing the aluminum to frame interface severe corrosion along the frame rails sure was a wakeup call. It was then that I learned how bad is was to have aluminum and steel together.
It's surprising how many people still think "aluminium....it doesn't rust" :) Well no, it doesn't, but it sure does corrode!
If you have a small amount of steel in contact with a large mass of aluminium...all is probably OK, but reverse that, and your small amount of aluminium is a fast corroding sacrificial anode! The difference in their potential difference is quite large. Make that magnesium and steel, and stand back and watch the Mg disappear! :eek:

Cheers,
Glen

xb-60 08-10-2015 05:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 750hp (Post 1358613)
Glen, let me clarify that I was talking about CSX2... slab side street cars; the FIA and comp cars have that tougher muscular look ;)

V8 conversions are always a laugh. That Britishv8.org site is a classic!
Understood, Craig. The Healeys are definitely good lookers, but personally I still slightly prefer the Cobra 289 roadsters (the curves, and particularly the interiors) and yep, the 289 Comp and FIA cars sure do it for me!

The Rover (ex-Buick) all alloy V8 was a natural choice for the MGB, but I've always wondered how well a 289 would suit an MGA. Not much heavier than the 1500/1600/Twin Cam and way more powerful. The MG has a better base suspension design than the Cobra too (I would argue that the MGA's rear end is a better setup than the CSX2xxx cars' rear end, and the front suspension design on the MG is definitely better).

I still don't know if the swap's ever been done....%/

Cheers,
Glen

DanEC 08-10-2015 06:32 AM
Neat car - like it's looks. That's a pretty serious engine set back. I wonder if he can pull the distributor or if it's there until the engine comes out? Must make setting points interesting. Probably a good case for a points conversion kit.

HealeyRick 08-10-2015 07:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 750hp (Post 1358590)
As soon as I read the subject line, I knew you'd be all over this Rick!
I'm also a bit partial to a V8 Healey and I can appreciate the history of this car, but I really like the unmodified body shape of the Healeys. I'd argue that the big Healeys are a better looking car than the CSX2000 Cobras.
They both, along with Jaguar, share that long hood short rear deck that give them a look like they are going to leap forward.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1358591)
I agree Craig. Who can criticize the intent and the execution, but I personally prefer the standard Healey 100 nose.

Rick - I've always thought an SBF in an MGA would be a good idea. Has this act of b@stardry ever been done to your knowledge :D ?

Cheers,
Glen
Like Cobras, Healeys with V8s suffer from cooling problems. I'm sure Tom's Cobra nose had a lot to do with trying to keep the big block cool rather than a styling statement. There are a couple of SBF-MGA swaps here: MGB V8 and V6 Photo Gallery - plus MG Midget, MGA, MGC, RV8 and ZT sports cars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mdross1 (Post 1358615)
Sure do see the 427 Cobra cues in this car. Back in the day also considered doing a V8 swap into an MG till I discovered the fiberglass replica kits. Also back then looked at a small block Cobra that had been driven year round up here in the Northeast. Seeing the aluminum to frame interface severe corrosion along the frame rails sure was a wakeup call. It was then that I learned how bad is was to have aluminum and steel together.
Healeys have a similar aluminum-steel problems where the steel fenders join up with the aluminum shrouds.

1985 CCX 08-10-2015 10:21 AM
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Healey 3000 with a 289 Ford..... 5spd :D

1985 CCX 08-10-2015 10:23 AM
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Another shot of this great car!

HealeyRick 08-11-2015 05:58 PM
Shared this thread with Tom Schnerk. aka "Tom Tork". He asked me to post this:

"Interesting.The Olds Healey keeps cropping up in the car forums. My engine swap of ’57 at age 22 and the body mods of ’64 at age 29 and the period restoration of ’00 at age 65 are well documented. Now, at age 80, I am wondering if this Olds Healey is becoming my apparent legacy, much like Obamacare is Obama’s legacy? (sic). If so, I guess I have no problem with this…….TomTork ps: google " olds healey " "

750hp 08-11-2015 06:08 PM
I wonder if anyone has owned an Austin Healey for longer than Tom?
One of Dad's (Donunder) friends has owned his BN1 since his 18th birthday in 1968, but ownership since 1957 is amazing!

xb-60 08-11-2015 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HealeyRick (Post 1358812)
Shared this thread with Tom Schnerk. aks "Tom Tork". He asked me to post this:

"Interesting.The Olds Healey keeps cropping up in the car forums. My engine swap of ’57 at age 22 and the body mods of ’64 at age 29 and the period restoration of ’00 at age 65 are well documented. Now, at age 80, I am wondering if this Olds Healey is becoming my apparent legacy, much like Obamacare is Obama’s legacy? (sic). If so, I guess I have no problem with this…….TomTork ps: google " olds healey " "
Rick,
Please pass it on to "Tom Tork" that it is definitely his legacy, but as impressive and individual as it is, I have no doubt that it is only one of his legacies.

Cheers,
Glen


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