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Detroit Bill 09-09-2015 08:08 AM
Drag Racing
 
I am in SE Michigan. I went to Lapeer Dragway Saturday and was unable to run.
1.) I did not have arm restraints (my fault), it was not on their webpage.
2.) If I ran faster than 13.99 I needed a 6 point roll cage. My dual roll bars would not pass muster.

Does Milan run under different rules? I saw some times posted on the website from there. Is there a SE Michigan track I can run at?
It is not a drag car but I'd like to take a few passes.

What is everyone's experience with this?

DanEC 09-09-2015 08:31 AM
Full roll cage for faster than a 13.99 - wow, that's seems ridiculous. That probably eliminates 1/4 of cars produced today if driven by a fairly competent driver - not just muscle cars but everyday 4-door sports sedans. That means I couldn't run my 03 Lightning or my 12 Mustang GT, much less my ERA.

Detroit Bill 09-09-2015 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1362259)
Full roll cage for faster than a 13.99 - wow, that's seems ridiculous. That probably eliminates 1/4 of cars produced today if driven by a fairly competent driver - not just muscle cars but everyday 4-door sports sedans. That means I couldn't run my 03 Lightning or my 12 Mustang GT, much less my ERA.
Sorry I should have been more specific. For open cars, no roof.

keezling 09-09-2015 11:10 AM
Open cockpit cars without mega roll cages are pretty much restricted to outlaw tracks generally speaking. Your experience may vary by type of event, who techs your car, who your friends with, which way the wind is blowing etc. Bottom line they want to keep the sport going and people getting hurt or killed won't get it.

DAVID GAGNARD 09-09-2015 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keezling (Post 1362280)
Open cockpit cars without mega roll cages are pretty much restricted to outlaw tracks generally speaking. Your experience may vary by type of event, who techs your car, who your friends with, which way the wind is blowing etc. Bottom line they want to keep the sport going and people getting hurt or killed won't get it.
yes, what was said above and if the track runs under NHRA rules, don't even bother going within 10 miles of the track........lol........they "might" let you in the spectator parking lot and that's about it.......

Sorry not much help,but if you want to make a few passes, your best bet is a test-n-tune day at a non-sanctioned track.....

David

RICK LAKE 09-09-2015 12:09 PM
What are you looking for?
 
Detroit Bill, What are you looking for? The time you will run in the 1/4 mile? About 11.20's in the 118-126 mph. This depends on traction and getting out of the hole time. With out slicks a good 482 motor will smoke the tires if a 3,000 rpm clutch drop is done. You leaving at about 1,600 rpms will give you this time average. I don't know if you have a solid rearend or Jag rearend, but Jags don't like holeshots. If the rearend starts hopping get out of it. These cars average from 9.80's to 12.8. seconds and anywhere from 108 mph to 142.0 mph. Just be careful of the justa6 guy. The cars a sleeper. Rick L. Ps I have a 6 point cage and hate dragracing the car with a jag rearend was never designed for this. Smallblock car ok, BB car without a solid rearend, not good. I got through out of e-town for life for running under 12.5 with out a full cage and mine is 6 point and 3" over my helmet. It's all about safety. too many people have been hurt and even killed for this. I can count the number of cars damaged hitting the walls. A little side note on this, most insurance companies for car and your body are not covered if accident happens racing( any type, autocross, drag racing, road racing, street racing if ticketed) Becareful. %/

DanEC 09-09-2015 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill (Post 1362261)
Sorry I should have been more specific. For open cars, no roof.
Oh - I probably should have known that. Haven't been to the 1/4 mile track in more years than I care to remember.

twobjshelbys 09-09-2015 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill (Post 1362256)
1.) I did not have arm restraints (my fault), it was not on their webpage.
2.) If I ran faster than 13.99 I needed a 6 point roll cage. My dual roll bars would not pass muster.
Pretty consistent with what I had years ago with my Shelbe GT/SC convertible.

1. They didn't make me do that
2. I ran 13.6 and they made me get a fire suit and helmet, and told me not to go under 13.0 or I would be excused from the track (or I would have to have a full roll cage). Not to worry, my first run was my best since the track start gummed up. I was the third car that day and had a good grip, but after that couldn't hook up the street tires.

MaSnaka 09-09-2015 10:43 PM
But you can ride your Nitro powered motorcycle without seat belts in 6 second passes. Something I don't quite understand the logic of. But I do appreciate safety first.

John

Detroit Bill 09-10-2015 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RICK LAKE (Post 1362285)
Detroit Bill, What are you looking for? The time you will run in the 1/4 mile? About 11.20's in the 118-126 mph. This depends on traction and getting out of the hole time. With out slicks a good 482 motor will smoke the tires if a 3,000 rpm clutch drop is done. You leaving at about 1,600 rpms will give you this time average. I don't know if you have a solid rearend or Jag rearend, but Jags don't like holeshots. If the rearend starts hopping get out of it. These cars average from 9.80's to 12.8. seconds and anywhere from 108 mph to 142.0 mph. Just be careful of the justa6 guy. The cars a sleeper. Rick L. Ps I have a 6 point cage and hate dragracing the car with a jag rearend was never designed for this. Smallblock car ok, BB car without a solid rearend, not good. I got through out of e-town for life for running under 12.5 with out a full cage and mine is 6 point and 3" over my helmet. It's all about safety. too many people have been hurt and even killed for this. I can count the number of cars damaged hitting the walls. A little side note on this, most insurance companies for car and your body are not covered if accident happens racing( any type, autocross, drag racing, road racing, street racing if ticketed) Becareful. %/
Yea I want to take the car down a times 1/4 mile.
It is a superformance so it is an independent rear.

twin turbo 09-10-2015 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaSnaka (Post 1362350)
But you can ride your Nitro powered motorcycle without seat belts in 6 second passes. Something I don't quite understand the logic of. But I do appreciate safety first.

John
Or a 9 second snowmobile is just fine according to tech, what a joke.

cycleguy55 09-10-2015 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaSnaka (Post 1362350)
But you can ride your Nitro powered motorcycle without seat belts in 6 second passes. Something I don't quite understand the logic of. But I do appreciate safety first.

John
The difference is the rider is generally separated from the bike if something bad happens. In a car there's a risk it will be upside down with the driver trapped underneath.

okiedokie 09-10-2015 06:08 PM
http://www.milandragway.com/track-rules
Here's a link to Milan Dragway for a quick breakdown on their rules and for NHRA.

GT Trooper 09-10-2015 08:16 PM
Bill - Watch the Milan schedule and try to make the "No ET Nationals". You will need a helmet and belts to make a pass. A bit pricey but for these events (usually once a month), you can make a pass in just about anything.

sdonnel 09-11-2015 09:40 AM
As you probably saw, they do test and tune nights on Wednesday through the summer. I went one time and had a helmet and arm restraints. I was under 13 seconds. No one said a word to me. I found many issues with the car when pressed as hard as it was. Haven't been back since I've upgraded everything. Be safe.

Scott


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