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09-22-2015, 08:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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There's as many answers to this question as there are people on this site. What's not enough for Peter may be way too much for Paul. With no standard thresholds of skill, bravery, ability, reflexes, stupidity, testosterone or taste, it's sheer madness to expect a correct answer or any sort of consensus. Imposing your standard or threshold on someone else and expecting them to accept it is even crazier. At best, we can share our own individual takes on the issue and enjoy hearing the varying perspectives of others.
Me personally, I've owned and driven a few abnormally powerful cars - way more than is required for even spirited driving on the street, and I have never ever felt like saying "this is enough". I hear people saying that they don't like 400 - 500+ HP cars because they feel they can rarely or never experience the full potential in daily driving. If I believed that I need to be able to floor a car in every gear for me to enjoy driving it on the street, then I'd find my thrill in any number of conveyances of basic transportation.
I love being able to tap into awesome, tire shredding power once in a brief while, and feeling the JATO rush in otherwise routine acceleration and passing manoeuvres without necessarily breaking into triple digit speeds. I also love having the power to shoot up into those triple digits quickly and back to normal again when it's safe to do so without excessive risk to (my and others') life, limb and property.
At the same time I fully understand some peoples' love for stirring the gears and running up the revs while flogging the hell out of lower powered, sporting little cars (MG's, Sprites, etc) that barely manage in all their revving and and fury to get out of their own way. I appreciate the automotive enthusiasm, but it's just not my cup of tea, that's all. 
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09-22-2015, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: PORT LAVACA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BD 1445 Coyote TKO 600 3.91
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So what I see here is dudes in Cobras driving around looking for super bikes... Dudes with more money than common sense... dudes with a pecker syndrome....
I once met a guy who had a cigarette boat... it was in the shop every other month.. I was back at the shop to buy some oil... I asked the mechanic, why is that boat back? his response was because there is a boat out there in the area that is running 132mph....
500 600 or 700hp you cannot lay into the throttle and run the gears with your foot down... this is unusable power!!
but if floats your boat...... no pun intended |
09-22-2015, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BADSN8K
So what I see here is dudes in Cobras driving around looking for super bikes... Dudes with more money than common sense... dudes with a pecker syndrome....
I once met a guy who had a cigarette boat... it was in the shop every other month.. I was back at the shop to buy some oil... I asked the mechanic, why is that boat back? his response was because there is a boat out there in the area that is running 132mph....
500 600 or 700hp you cannot lay into the throttle and run the gears with your foot down... this is unusable power!!
but if floats your boat...... no pun intended |
Pot meet kettle?
Your comments are laughable considering the car you chose.  |
09-22-2015, 09:08 PM
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No pot no Kettle....
I could have added the Super Charger and been at 700+ hp
I CHOSE not to....
As a result I have a Measly 425HP at the real wheels....
and the reality is.... I still cannot Lay into the throttle in all gears..... so my point for 500 600 and 700 is well stated...
perhaps you have a leak in your trunk flowing into your cockpit....   |
09-23-2015, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BADSN8K
As a result I have a Measly 425HP at the real wheels....
and the reality is.... I still cannot Lay into the throttle in all gears..... so my point for 500 600 and 700 is well stated...
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I don't mean to criticize, but just because you can't use 425 rwhp, doesn't make it true for others, it's all in the set up. |
09-23-2015, 02:32 AM
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390hp in a 428 is enough, especially cruising in the mountains where Lynn lives.
I had 680hp in a 2.000lbs Cobra. My next one will have 400hp in a 390 FE. Yes, I am getting old...
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09-23-2015, 06:21 AM
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really??? TWIN TURBO lets look at that video........
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Originally Posted by twin turbo
I don't mean to criticize, but just because you can't use 425 rwhp, doesn't make it true for others, it's all in the set up.
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Here are your own words!!!! from your video!!!!! BTW nice run tho!
"Tried out some new 2.73 rearend gears on a slippery track at the Medford cruise-in. I had to throttle in and out of it several times each pass but had a lot of fun"
YOU ARE ON A DRAG STRIP and you you have to throttle in and out.... either your reaction time is SO BAD or your wheels broke...... and with gearing that NO ONE is running in these cars.....
SO I still stand by my statement....... thus why these cars are one of the MOST DANGEROUS cars in the world! |
09-23-2015, 06:08 AM
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Location: Cape Town,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shamrock
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My first motor was a nearly standard 350 Chevy with self ported original fitment small valve heads and mild street cam giving maybe 250 Hp at the wheels with a 3.08 open diff that ran 13.5 quarters. It was sufficient power for 20 years.
The new motor is a 383 with lots in it and will most probably have 50% more at the wheels - hopefully it will be sufficient power for another 20 years (by then I will be 85 years old) and I guess in 20 years time I will be looking for a BB with another 50% at the wheels.
I guess what I am saying is any power you are happy with is sufficient until you get used to it - then you will want more. Also that the time it takes to want more depends on the individual and their wallet.
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09-24-2015, 09:35 AM
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There is an aesthetic to horsepower completely independent of the work it can perform. A large displacement engine with a big cam throbs and barks moving a ton of air. The vibration resonates through you and everything around you. You can feel the potential of a barely tethered beast and that in itself is a hoot.
Going stupid fast is fun too.
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09-24-2015, 04:44 PM
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When I can downshift at 60mph, hit the gas, and the car goes sideways, that is my idea of having enough power.
Everybody's thought process is different. Whether anybody can use it or not is a totally different issue.
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09-24-2015, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joyridin'
When I can downshift at 60mph, hit the gas, and the car goes sideways, that is my idea of having enough power.
Everybody's thought process is different. Whether anybody can use it or not is a totally different issue.
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That just means you need better tires.  |
09-24-2015, 08:08 PM
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That just means you need better tires. |
I would be happy to bolt my tires on your car and you can try to impress me with this feat. |
09-24-2015, 08:24 PM
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I'm in, and it won't even be much of a challenge without even knowing what tires you have.
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09-24-2015, 08:35 PM
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Location: Adelaide,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Are you selling tickets?  |
09-24-2015, 09:18 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lone Star with IRS, 427W with megasquirt, T56 magnum
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I think there are 2 kinds of Cobra owners.
Ones with more than 500 HP and would like more, and ones with less and pretend they don't to justify.
There may be a third that really should own a MG with less than 125hp.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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09-24-2015, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luce
I think there are 2 kinds of Cobra owners.
Ones with more than 500 HP and would like more, and ones with less and pretend they don't to justify.
There may be a third that really should own a MG with less than 125hp.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Mr. Luce,
I don't agree with that generalisation at all.
I'll figuratively put it in my pipe and burn it 
Cheers,
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