Blown motor - which Long Block to buy?

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

They are not currently available because the company that produced their blocks went belly up. I think the soonest we will see them back in production is July 2016.

But somehow Summit Racing has them in stock and ready for immediate shipping?
Ford Racing 427 C.I.D. 450HP X-Head Crate Engines M-6007-X427FFT - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing
Ford Racing 427 C.I.D. 535 HP Crate Engines M-6007-Z427FRT - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

FWIW, I support what others have said about checking with KC and Lykins.

[frankym]

Considering how light these cars are, it makes sense to me (logically) to get more of the torque and hp later in RPMs. Having had a stroker side ouler 468, with radial 15 inch tires, it just broke the tires at slower speeds. Curious to hear from others who own a keth craft sbf 427 585hp config. If the power curve is unsatisfying, what is your recommendation. Going to send a check to KC tomorrow. Please keep fredback coming.

[Ace23]

Originally Posted by frankym

Considering how light these cars are, it makes sense to me (logically) to get more of the torque and hp later in RPMs. Having had a stroker side ouler 468, with radial 15 inch tires, it just broke the tires at slower speeds. Curious to hear from others who own a keth craft sbf 427 585hp config. If the power curve is unsatisfying, what is your recommendation. Going to send a check to KC tomorrow. Please keep fredback coming.

Have Keith build you a 445 Windsor like he did for Pman1961's setup. That motor is a beast.....has great power curve and comes on like a freak up to 6500. It really shouldn't be anymore than one of his 427w setups. I think it makes 615hp/599tq or something like that. I have the 427w 585hp and it's too peaky for me. It's fun when your at the higher rpm but you spend about 1% of your seat time at that rpm unless it's a race car. Perry's car uses a hydraulic roller and it has the radical idle you are looking for. If I was getting a complete new motor or doing a complete rebuild that is what I would get or even a 460w after driving it

[frankym]

Can someone provide info about who Pman1961 is. It would make it easier for me to reference with Keith Craft. I did not see a 445 CID option nor did it come up in conversation with tony at keith craft.

[Ron61]

If you want to see about what Pman1961 has just do a search for him and hiS Profile will give you the engine and everything as he has it listed there. And it does say it is a 455.

rON

[frankym]

I want to call keith craft and reference a specific build by name. But i will check out Pman1961's cc profile. Thanks

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Ace23

Have Keith build you a 445 Windsor like he did for Pman1961's setup. That motor is a beast.....has great power curve and comes on like a freak up to 6500. It really shouldn't be anymore than one of his 427w setups. I think it makes 615hp/599tq or something like that. I have the 427w 585hp and it's too peaky for me. It's fun when your at the higher rpm but you spend about 1% of your seat time at that rpm unless it's a race car. Perry's car uses a hydraulic roller and it has the radical idle you are looking for. If I was getting a complete new motor or doing a complete rebuild that is what I would get or even a 460w after driving it

The great part about dealing with an engine builder like KC or Lykins is you can have a dialogue about what you're looking for. If you want a high RPM race motor that happens to be 'peaky', then you can have that. OTOH, if you're looking for a torque monster that's good for daily driving and cruising, then they'll build one to meet those needs. That's certainly part of the discussion, along with what it's going in to, what drive train you're using, axle ratio, driving style, etc.

With crate motors, of course, you're pretty much getting what the factory produces for a broader range of needs - take it or leave it.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

But somehow Summit Racing has them in stock and ready for immediate shipping?
Ford Racing 427 C.I.D. 450HP X-Head Crate Engines M-6007-X427FFT - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing
Ford Racing 427 C.I.D. 535 HP Crate Engines M-6007-Z427FRT - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

FWIW, I support what others have said about checking with KC and Lykins.

You should call and order one to prove me wrong.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

You should call and order one to prove me wrong.

Yeah, I'll get right on that! LOL

Regardless, the point being they show both models available for 'immediate shipping', and I've never had a problem with ordering from Summit. I've placed a number of orders with Summit and not once have they ever been unable to ship something when they showed it as 'immediate shipping'.

YMMV

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Yeah, I'll get right on that! LOL

Regardless, the point being they show both models available for 'immediate shipping', and I've never had a problem with ordering from Summit. I've placed a number of orders with Summit and not once have they ever been unable to ship something when they showed it as 'immediate shipping'.

YMMV

It comes down to frequency. When you use a supplier 3 times a week over 10 years spending up to 300k a year, ya learn somethings... Exceptional company but there are some holes and some assumptions that suppliers will have stock and ship same day on certain numbers.

They might have one in stock though if you have to have it