What's the deal with Slabside pricing and availability?

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think the better question is why would you install an original "Cobra engine" in a replica?

For the same reason that Bob Bondurant installed an original GT40 engine in his replica GT40?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

For the same reason that Bob Bondurant installed an original GT40 engine in his replica GT40?

Yes, to make a more "genuine" replica.

Don't care if it's Bob Bondurant or Carroll Shelby. Makes no difference to me.

[Old Phart]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

For the same reason that Bob Bondurant installed an original GT40 engine in his replica GT40?

Pat bought Bob's GT40 with the original GT40 engine already installed.

[csx4910]

$91000 was the Hammer price + the 10% premium for lot 1415, csx8000 series

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think the better question is why would you install an original "Cobra engine" in a replica?

is a csx 8000 a replica or an original?, for sure not a historic original but a modern original,

btw i would not install a historic engine into a plastic csx 8000
but a csx 8000 with historic drivetrain and aluminium body would be the most authentic slabside outside a csx 2000

[1985 CCX]

Well that question opens Pandora's box...��

Not sure an original engine means a ton with these cars. Period correct always adds $, not sure original engine means much more than 5 bolt HiPo?

Not sure plastic is best term either as they are hand laid glass and if history shows between GT40, Viper and Vettes, which were glass, never an issue in cost/value.
In GT40 world glass was the norm except for Allen Mann cars.

Hmmmmm��

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

is a csx 8000 a replica or an original?, for sure not a historic original but a modern original,

btw i would not install a historic engine into a plastic csx 8000
but a csx 8000 with historic drivetrain and aluminium body would be the most authentic slabside outside a csx 2000

Replica!

"Most authentic" replica?

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

is a csx 8000 a replica or an original?, for sure not a historic original but a modern original,

btw i would not install a historic engine into a plastic csx 8000
but a csx 8000 with historic drivetrain and aluminium body would be the most authentic slabside outside a csx 2000

Would the usual suspects simply answer this newbie's question with the same explanation you would give a stranger at a gas station and not drag this into the merits discussion yet again?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Would the usual suspects simply answer this newbie's question with the same explanation you would give a stranger at a gas station and not drag this into the merits discussion yet again?

You can't simply answer the question, because there is more than one explanation and we all know that.

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Would the usual suspects simply answer this newbie's question with the same explanation you would give a stranger at a gas station and not drag this into the merits discussion yet again?

you must not be here for a decade or neither have a harvard degree to talk about that question and understand that problem

if rolex makes a new series of a 60th model it is an original rolex
if any other manufacturer makes a new series of that watch it is a replica

if shelby makes a new series of a 289 it is an original (for sure not a historic one)

i think its that simple

maybe we can philosophize about the authenticity level of the manufacturing way:

if ac heritage is hammering a new alubody on original tools at brooklands, ships that to las vegas where it is completetd by shelby with original drivetrain, that might be the most authentic way in manufacturing a continuation car

[NewYorkGuy]

^^^^^
Are You RealOne (Evan)'s son?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

you must not be here for a decade or neither have a harvard degree to talk about that question and understand that problem

if rolex makes a new series of a 60th model it is an original rolex
if any other manufacturer makes a new series of that watch it is a replica

if shelby makes a new series of a 289 it is an original (for sure not a historic one)

i think its that simple

maybe we can philosophize about the authenticity level of the manufacturing way:

if ac heritage is hammering a new alubody on original tools at brooklands, ships that to las vegas where it is completetd by shelby with original drivetrain, that might be the most authentic way in manufacturing a continuation car

Here's a thread that went 64 pages and was setup as a sticky by Jamo The Moderator, but ultimately the thread was closed. I suggest you read it, because all the arguments for and against the Shelby being genuine or authentic or original have been made over and over and over again.

Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

The new Shelby is clearly a replica in my mind and in the mind of Ned Scudder, the CSX2000 and CSX3000 Cobra Registrar for the SAAC Registry. And the value of a CSX8000 is roughly 1/10 of an original, so the market clearly sees them as replicas. The Registry refers to them as replicas and Cobra-like. The CSX4000/6000/8000 is a replica made by a company that bought out Shelby and took the company public and they have made the replicas with bodies, parts, etc. that aren't from the 1960's and that can't be sold as completed cars, since they do not meet modern safety and emission standards.

I could go on and on, but I know everyone here is tired of the discussion. Again, I'd suggest reading the recent thread that I posted above.

BTW, you quoted twobjshelbys, but I'm the one who said we've discussed this same argument for 10 years, not twobjshelbys.

[LMH]

Which car are you guys talking about with an original Cobra engine?
Larry

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by LMH

Which car are you guys talking about with an original Cobra engine?
Larry

This one

1965 SHELBY COBRA CSX 8000 ROADSTER

[LMH]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

This one

1965 SHELBY COBRA CSX 8000 ROADSTER

Got it, thanks! Block and heads could be original. Interesting!
Larry

[LMH]

My guess on the glove box door is that they took the existing piece directly from the Supeformance 427. That way they didn't have to make new tooling for the door. Of course, thats only a guess but they do look a lot alike.
Larry

[CompClassics]

i believe that the 8000 Series Continuation Cobras that were offered were fiberglass bodied?

[marklotus]

Sold at Barrett Jackson

CSX8039 silver w. Cobra engine $143,000
CSX8004 40th Anniversary $100,100

Both were fiberglass bodied.

[James Stern]

Jolsen42,

What a great Cobra. I love the Sun tach.

[desgros@vtlink.]

Interestingly the interest and prices continue to grow generation after generation. Who would have thought in 1962 that the AC Ace-Cobra would be commanding such attention.

John
ERA Slabside #3010 BRG