Evan's (REAL1) Car On The Market

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

Funny comparison but VW quits building the beetle years ago and then decides to bring it back into production, it bares very little to no resemblance of the original air cooled beetle that preceded it but it is still considered a VW Beetle. The same can be said for the Chevrolet Camaro as well as many other manufacturers and models. There is ONLY one manufacturer that has a VIN that carries "CSX...." and that is a Shelby built Cobra be it a 289,427 or Daytona it's still a Shelby Cobra and it's a hell of a lot closer in resemblance than the new Beetle is.
I believe that Evan believed that his Cobra was as original as the 1960s Cobras, it is. You can not label a Superformance MkIII a Shelby Cobra and justly you can not label a Shelby Cobra a Superformance MkIII.

A real car manufacturer builds their own engines and body designs. Porsche. Ferrari. McLaren.
Shelby was/is a tuning company. Bodies from there. Engines from everywhere.
Well they do manufacture nice shiny csx plates. Machined in house or farmed out?
I guess those 50th annv Rebadged kirkham cobras will be "real cobra" in the year 2066.

[CompClassics]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

A real car manufacturer builds their own engines and body designs. Porsche. Ferrari. McLaren.
Shelby was/is a tuning company. Bodies from there. Engines from everywhere.
Well they do manufacture nice shiny csx plates. Machined in house or farmed out?
I guess those 50th annv Rebadged kirkham cobras will be "real cobra" in the year 2066.

Actually,
It is not as you state above, being in the industry for many years a manufacturer does not necessarily do their own designing, engineering or manufacturing of their own vehicles or parts all of the time. Many manufacturers today utilize other companies to do these things. When Chevrolet was designing their C5 Corvette they turned to Porsche to design the torque tube and transaxle systems. When Porsche first opened his business doors it was as a engineering firm. many automotive manufacturing companies (Ford, Chevrolet, Porsche , Audi, etc) have other automotive manufacturing companies supply a base vehicle where the company then produces its own exterior and some drivetrain components and then they call it their own brand, the VW Tourag was a perfect example, it provided a base vehicle to Porsche and Audi for their respective SUV market. Porsche even utilized the VW VR6 engine in its base model Cayenne. This has been going on since the beginning of the automobile with chassis manufacturers supply chassis to coach builders to complete and call their own. This practice has taken place with normal production run vehicles all the way up to high end limited production specials.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

Actually,
It is not as you state above, being in the industry for many years a manufacturer does not necessarily do their own designing, engineering or manufacturing of their own vehicles or parts all of the time. Many manufacturers today utilize other companies to do these things. When Chevrolet was designing their C5 Corvette they turned to Porsche to design the torque tube and transaxle systems. When Porsche first opened his business doors it was as a engineering firm. many automotive manufacturing companies (Ford, Chevrolet, Porsche , Audi, etc) have other automotive manufacturing companies supply a base vehicle where the company then produces its own exterior and some drivetrain components and then they call it their own brand, the VW Tourag was a perfect example, it provided a base vehicle to Porsche and Audi for their respective SUV market. Porsche even utilized the VW VR6 engine in its base model Cayenne. This has been going on since the beginning of the automobile with chassis manufacturers supply chassis to coach builders to complete and call their own. This practice has taken place with normal production run vehicles all the way up to high end limited production specials.

Psst, it is 2016.
Everyone s moved on except for Cobras cars and their specialized mom&pop shops. Cobra $$$$ keeps your business afloat. Keep on spreading the Cobra gospel. . Contact Dario F. He did not a problem ponying $228K for Csx4206. Dario liked the stories

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

A real car manufacturer builds their own engines and body designs. Porsche. Ferrari. McLaren.
Shelby was/is a tuning company. Bodies from there. Engines from everywhere.
Well they do manufacture nice shiny csx plates. Machined in house or farmed out?
I guess those 50th annv Rebadged kirkham cobras will be "real cobra" in the year 2066.

Well, where do we start with this sh#t?
Might want to check some chassis builders like Pinnanfarina for Ferrari and many others. Then maybe check Audi using Lamborghini engines in their cars.
The list goes on...
Point is that everyone out-sources what they need to build a car. Still happening today.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Well, where do we start with this sh#t?
Might want to check some chassis builders like Pinnanfarina for Ferrari and many others. Then maybe check Audi using Lamborghini engines in their cars.
The list goes on...
Point is that everyone out-sources what they need to build a car. Still happening today.

Or GM using rebadged Suzukis.

Move on now. Nothing new will be added from this point on.

[Bernica]

Agreed. It was a nice run though...

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Well, where do we start with this sh#t?
Might want to check some chassis builders like Pinnanfarina for Ferrari and many others. Then maybe check Audi using Lamborghini engines in their cars.
The list goes on...
Point is that everyone out-sources what they need to build a car. Still happening today.

Actually, it's the other way around. It's the primary I bought an Gallardo back in '08. Italian styling....German electrics, running gear, powertrain. What you'd call a perfect combination.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Tim7139

Actually, it's the other way around. It's the primary I bought an Gallardo back in '08. Italian styling....German electrics, running gear, powertrain. What you'd call a perfect combination.

They put that Gallardo V-10 in the Audi S8 in 2007

[Bernica]

Here's a slightly used REAL Porsche for sale in NY area. Just needs a little buffing out and good as new! What the hell...this thread is going to hell anyways!

Porsche 918 Spyder turns up at salvage auction

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by Bernica

They put that Gallardo V-10 in the Audi S8 in 2007

All the Gallardo engines were Audi made and shipped, as were gearboxes and AWD units.
I can't recall, but also, that might have been when they had 3-4 V10 engines but all were slightly different blocks which I never understood.