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twobjshelbys 12-26-2019 07:10 PM

Copper & Bronze Cobras at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale 2020
 
I got a booklet on the upcoming auction and there are a 4 Kirkhams from the Sam Pack collections, but the most interesting are the Copper and Bronze cars:

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...OADSTER-238330

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...OADSTER-238329

Also an aluminum Daytona Coupe

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...A-COUPE-238328

Other Cobras too...

t walgamuth 12-26-2019 07:47 PM

When i first saw the title of this thread I thought "what,...why?". I decided to have a look and then said wow! I get it now.

Very nice, thanks for posting. Care to guess the going price? 300K ea. for the cobras? 300 for the coupe?

Unique427 12-27-2019 04:51 AM

Daytona Coupe with 3 speed auto???? No thanks.

The polished copper and bronze are indeed eyecatchers.

I would guess bronze would be more sturdy. Copper is a pretty soft metal.

You can price them out on Kirkham's website as shown.
Wonder if wait time would be measured in dog years.

snakeeyes 12-27-2019 09:38 AM

I assume you're well into the "more money than you know what to do with" category when you're sitting around thinking of alternate metals to have the Kirkhams make a Cobra from, LOL. "Hmmm...should I do platinum next? Or maybe beryllium?"

Agreed on the automatic, but I would expect that's an easy change to a manual. I wouldn't kick that Coupe out of bed for having a C4. What a gorgeous car.

twobjshelbys 12-27-2019 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unique427 (Post 1470184)
Daytona Coupe with 3 speed auto???? No thanks.

What difference does it make? It had just as well have the two-speed slushomatic from the 52 buick. It's only driven to take it off and off a trailer at car shows, if that. Most likely it was moved from a trailer to a heated cooled garage and hasn't been started since it was built. Nor will it be by the new owner.

FredG 12-28-2019 07:15 PM

The "more money than you know what to do with" would have to apply because neither of those cars is worth anywhere near some of those predictions.

t walgamuth 12-29-2019 07:24 AM

What do you think they are worth?

Phx Mike 12-29-2019 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1470196)
What difference does it make? It had just as well have the two-speed slushomatic from the 52 buick. It's only driven to take it off and off a trailer at car shows, if that. Most likely it was moved from a trailer to a heated cooled garage and hasn't been started since it was built. Nor will it be by the new owner.

I didn’t see mileage listed...has it not been driven?

twobjshelbys 12-29-2019 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phx Mike (Post 1470236)
I didn’t see mileage listed...has it not been driven?

These are a few cars from a very large collection. It's doubtful they have anything more than mechanics miles - ie, mechanic takes it out to warm it up and get it off the tire flat spots every 3 or 6 months.

FredG 12-29-2019 10:19 AM

Worth
 
You know the old saying...only worth what someone is willing to pay. IMHO every Kirkham isn't worth what they are priced at. Is it a collector thing? A prestige thing? Maybe but as far as value looking at the total construction package and the materials used, way overpriced. I have no use for those kind of things..........IMHO

Fred

redmt 12-29-2019 03:16 PM

I thought that copper car with the SOCH engine belonged to some guy named Darren xxx can't remember his last name but I thought he was from the Los Angeles area? I could be wrong.
The scrap value for silicon bronze is higher than copper so I would say it will bring the higher price.
"I have no use for those kind of things..........IMHO" I couldn't agree with you more

RUFdriver 01-04-2020 02:01 PM

Cool Cobras, love the shifter! I would hate to even imagine the price tag from KMS on these two cars.

MKS427 01-06-2020 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phx Mike (Post 1470236)
I didn’t see mileage listed...has it not been driven?

Copper description, " This car’s only miles come from rolling on and off a trailer for car shows, so it’s close to new. The engine compartment is stuffed with a rare all-aluminum 427ci single overhead cam V8 engine,"
Not driven. Are you thinking about it Mike?

Anthony 01-06-2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredG (Post 1470239)
I have no use for those kind of things..........IMHO

Fred

I'm guessing that 99% of the population would say that about all cobra's.

1ntCobra 01-06-2020 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKS427 (Post 1470542)
Copper description, " This car’s only miles come from rolling on and off a trailer for car shows, so it’s close to new. The engine compartment is stuffed with a rare all-aluminum 427ci single overhead cam V8 engine,"
Not driven. Are you thinking about it Mike?

Isn’t copper much heavier than aluminum? I also recall a thread a while ago about at least one of the new aluminum 427 SOHC engines blowing up easily due to some reliability problems with the chains stretching. This car might best be used as a trailer queen instead of driven hard.

twobjshelbys 01-06-2020 10:55 AM

The copper and bronze cars are museum cars. They are the epitome of "Why? Because we can". On the other hand it would be cool to see one on the regular weekend Arizona drives. Heck, I'd probably even come down to see it.

redmt 01-13-2020 09:03 AM

When do or did these cars sell?

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1470176)
I got a booklet on the upcoming auction and there are a 4 Kirkhams from the Sam Pack collections, but the most interesting are the Copper and Bronze cars:

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...OADSTER-238330

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...OADSTER-238329

Also an aluminum Daytona Coupe

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...A-COUPE-238328

Other Cobras too...


twobjshelbys 01-13-2020 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redmt (Post 1470851)
When do or did these cars sell?

The lot numbers will tell you. My guess is Friday or Saturday prime time.

twobjshelbys 01-18-2020 04:37 PM

Well, special metals and bare aluminum cars don't get no respect.

Prices include 10% buyer's fee

Copper Kirkham: 231K
Bronze Kirkham: 165K
Aluminum 427: 165K
Aluminum Daytona Coupe: 143K
Aluminum CSX7000: 236.5K

snakeeyes 01-18-2020 05:04 PM

That Daytona is looking like a bargain.


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