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Old 04-13-2020, 02:52 AM
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Default Exhaust headers - which coating?

I'm hoping that engine and trans. will not be too far off....so thinking of exhaust coatings.
Need advice for which coating to apply to the exhaust primaries?

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Talk to your coater. Ours starts off with a white base coat no matter which final color is used. They say that their white has the best adhesion to the bare metal.
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My headers from ERA are standing up extremely well on my 289 Slabside.


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Talk to your coater. Ours starts off with a white base coat no matter which final color is used. They say that their white has the best adhesion to the bare metal.
Bob, I need advice. If I talk to "my coater", is that a painter or a powder coater, or something different?

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My headers from ERA are standing up extremely well on my 289 Slabside.


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John, I want my coating to stand up extremely well also, so what coating do you have?

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Glen,

I have used some high temp spray paints with mixed results and finally used a high temp wrap, doesn't look pretty but gets the job done. I know that some peoples Jet Hot or other high temp coatings.

What kinds of high temp coatings do you have available near you?
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Jim, it's something I've never looked into in detail. I recall using HT paint on extractors decades ago and the paint went 'chalky'.
What wrap did you use? Something similar to what we sometimes see on GT40 exhaust primaries?
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Glen,

Wish I could remember the name, but that looks like it exactly. I bought some stainless steel zip ties to keep it in place. I am still in the process of moving my stuff from the old place to the new place that I finished building and have been working on putting the shop back together. I should be back over there in a couple of days and I will look to see if I kept some packaging. I bought the wrap at a local automotive supply store.

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Glen,

For my build I had the primaries and the entire exhaust system ceramic coated satin black (see page 23 of my build log). The coatings are available in a wide variety of colors & finishes. I have not had any issues with chipping, flaking or corrosion. I am sure there must be a shop in your area that offers ceramic coating or a similar process.

I have heard that the fabric wraps on exhaust manifolds can promote corrosion, but I don’t have any experience with that. It might just come down to what ‘look’ you are after.
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Hi Tim,

Thanks. Yes, looks like ceramic coating might be the way to go. I have a favorite exhaust fabricator who will do the fab. of the pipes, so would make sense to ask them for advice too.

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Glen,

Ceramic is the best choice. I was trying to come up with that last night, bu was having a brain fart and couldn't come up with it. The paint is not a very effective method. I went that way because I was in a hurry and did not have time to shop around for a place to do it, and my budget was a little strained as well.

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Glen,
Check with Peter at ERA. They provided them to me.

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Talk to your coater. Ours starts off with a white base coat no matter which final color is used. They say that their white has the best adhesion to the bare metal.
"Coater" references a powder-coater. Most painters don't usually have the equipment for electrostatic application of powder.
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We've been using Central CT coatings for more than 20 years. Excellent quality and service.
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Depending on where you live, a local coater might be the best choice for big items.
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Glen,

For my build I had the primaries and the entire exhaust system ceramic coated satin black (see page 23 of my build log). The coatings are available in a wide variety of colors & finishes. I have not had any issues with chipping, flaking or corrosion. I am sure there must be a shop in your area that offers ceramic coating or a similar process.

I have heard that the fabric wraps on exhaust manifolds can promote corrosion, but I don’t have any experience with that. It might just come down to what ‘look’ you are after.
Im glad I found your post... I am ready for ceramic coating, I am about a 1 hour drive from Belmont. I will give them a try based on your experience.
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I'm hoping that engine and trans. will not be too far off....so thinking of exhaust coatings.
Need advice for which coating to apply to the exhaust primaries?

Cheers,
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ceramic coat with out a doubt... Im sure you will find some one local...
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I went with ceramic coating and looks good.
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Thanks for all of the replies. Ceramic coating it will be.

I had been involved somewhat with paint coating and powder coating previously for work; for those requirements, paint came out ahead on performance (high temp. wasn't one of them), but powder coating was ahead marginally on price for volume work.

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Hi,
If you plan on running a hydraulic cam and breaking it in for 20 minutes the silver ceramic coating will turn dull. I now only run satin black ceramic coating as it does not change color
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On any new engines you want to make sure you break in and have your TUNE all set up properly before putting on newly coated headers or exhaust pipes. I know it's an extra step and PITA, but this will ensure your coatings don't fail you right away.
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