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valpodoc 08-21-2003 09:18 PM

Wahoo...having a party

Steve R 08-21-2003 09:19 PM

mention that bow tie again and I swear to God I'm gonna make good on my threat to put a friggen Toyota V-8 in my next fake plastic Chit box..:mad:

valpodoc 08-21-2003 09:21 PM

Let all be snobs here...and keep the chit box at home

Steve R 08-21-2003 09:27 PM

leave it at home? ....Naw, I drive my Chit box.:) ....and what a Chit box it is!

valpodoc 08-21-2003 09:28 PM

sorry....want some poupon?

Excaliber 08-21-2003 09:30 PM

HEY! Theres a game plan I can live with! :D

......a tie? In Hawaii? Matching flip flops and tee shirt with no holes if it's a "formal" party serving the Grey Poupon Poi.

Ernie

Steve R 08-21-2003 09:32 PM

Valpodoc,
No thanks, Though I might be tempted by some "Who-flung-poo"

Steve R 08-21-2003 09:34 PM

Damn Ernie, there ya go again, messin up my timing!

Turk 08-21-2003 10:20 PM

I am with Evan on this snob thing. It is kind a neat, but I am nowhere near him on the French stuff.
I am OUT!

TURK

Carroll DeWeese 08-22-2003 08:56 AM

The issue of "Cobra snobs" clearly is a point of sensitivity. The problem is not with the cars -- in all their variety -- but with the owners and others.

My wife and I fell in love with the Cobra -- its shape, its promise, it being. We have no rational justification for owning it except that we love it. The Cobra is an ideal. It has many renditions to express its spirit. We welcome the diversity and variety of the cars and the Cobra community. No Cobra is perfect, including an "original." All cars are expressions of an underlying ideal.

By my values, some of the expressions of the Cobra ideal are more impressive than other expressions. Some appeal to me more than others. I can learn from all of them. In some cases, I learn what to do and in others what not to do relative to my values. A Cobra is a rolling sculpture. Some are creations of great talent and others are beginner works. Some transcend reality and are art. All are necessary. Relative to a given set of values, the poor renditions provide a contrast that enhances the inherent beauty of the best ones. Without poor renditions, no contrast exists and all renditions are “common.” The person that looks down upon “a lesser rendition” needs them to even have the contrast.

I have learned in competitive running that finish position is not the best indicator of which runner is getting the best performance relative to their potential. A person at the back of the pack may be running very close to their absolute potential where the winner may only be using a fraction of their potential. I have learned to respect effort relative to potential much more than overall finishing place. Differences exist between Cobra owners in resources, expertise, values, etc. A “lesser” rendition Cobra may, given its background, represent a closer expression of the Cobra ideal than one created with virtually unlimited time, money, and other resources. In context, the “lesser” Cobra may merit more respect than the “greater” Cobra.

If I do not like something, I have learned to try and understand why I do not like it. I try to understand the context in which it was created. I try to use it as a frame of reference and a way to improve my own understanding of the world and how to relate to it.

Life is a festival of dances. Many different tunes and beats are being played simultaneously. None are inherently better than the others, except as we impose a standard to differentiate between them. Making distinctions is a human activity. Life just is. Reality is not the abstraction. We create abstractions to create a person road map to deal with life. We may share the reality, but we each have our own destinations.

As Jamo has repeatedly said, “Some people are just ‘a**holes’.” These are people that have blinders on. They want to believe that something that they have makes them inherently better than others. They do not want to recognize how we all need each other. They lack wisdom. They are like the baby learning to walk than has yet to grow up. Some people have “arrested development.”

I believe that the more we are fortunate to have the more we need to appreciate and be considerate of others. “He who shall be chief shall be servant of all.” Our things do not make us better. In fact, our things can get in the way of our becoming full and complete persons. Personally, I am more interested in who a person is than in what they have or do not have.

I like people. One of the reasons that I got a Cobra is that I like Cobra people. We share a common passion, but virtually all are very likeable. Some are still trying to find their way, but there is room for all of us.

Based upon the number of responses, this “snob” issue is a sensitive one. Just remember the “snob” is his or her own problem. Their issues are their issues. Their problems are their problems. Maybe in time they will develop the wisdom to grow up and become a more complete human being. In the meantime, I know who I am. I know my values. I know the context in which I exist. I do not personalize what a snob does or says to me. I just appreciate what I am and what I have.

rdorman 08-22-2003 09:09 AM

Carroll DeWeese aka Buddha
 
You zazen master you. Through Carroll's teaching we may all reach enlightenment;)
Rick

Tongue Pirate 08-22-2003 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve R


Hyde,
ERA's are SOOOO yesterday;)

That's the point, isn't it?:LOL:

Flyin_Freddie 08-22-2003 12:55 PM

.................................................. .
 
(Flyin_Freddie puts down Persian rug, dons love beads and linen robes while assuming the Lotus position...)

Ooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, he begins to chant....Ooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Indeed, Grasshopper, also known as DeWeese, we have reached a higher plateau of conciousness through your teachings. We realize that we must not put down the feelings of others who have put down the actions of others without regard to the Cobra they may, or may not drive. But, O' great minds of this website...how should we begin to understand those that do put down others for their actions...? One may weave a story that, being based on a true occurance, may only be embelished somewhat to make the reader more enlightened and the reading more enjoyable, while another one chastises the story teller for the embelishment. Yea, verily, I, too, have stooped to that level of criticism in the recent past. However, although I may have unjustly criticised anothers opinion, verily, I will purchase the beverage of the others liking upon a chance encounter. Not in an effort to make amends for my criticisms, mind you, but in celebration of our mutual liking of all things Cobra. Yea, I may not always agree with the others opinion, criticisms, outlooks, or anything else. But....I will always like his Cobra looking vehicle, be it built on a budget, in Poland, Las Vegas, South Africa, or that famous place in Egypt. But, please....please....if you own one....drive it, okay? Not driving it is not unlike being married to Selma Hayak and sleeping in twin beds..and not unlike whacking off ... you get the same feeling, but it's just a lot more fun when you put it on the road.

Oooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Oooooooooommmmmmmmmmm mm...the sound of finger cymbals and sitars...incense wafts through the air... Ooooooommmmmmmmmmmmm

rdorman 08-22-2003 01:04 PM

Freddie
 
A little early to be drinking isn't it:LOL: :LOL:

Save a coushion for me, just love that ripping sitar music.

By the way, my Cobra is better than all-you-alls because it is mine. So there;)

Carroll does seem to have some major ki going there doesn't he?

Any one see that picture of Turk and Leno? Turk, the next Ed McMann?

Rick

Turk 08-22-2003 01:20 PM

Freddie,
You ain't GOT sitar!!

Thanks for the laughter.

TURK
Somewhere not too far from Berkely

BLACKJACK 08-22-2003 01:26 PM

I MENTIONED EARLIER - - -

SOME OF US OUGHTA BE OUT LOOKIN' FOR A JOB - - -

FREDIE? FREDIE??

Y'ALL GAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

KobraKarl 08-22-2003 02:15 PM

Caroll

They arrested my development , and they throwed it in jail,
And they called my pappy to throw my bail ,
An my pappy said , Son, you drivin me to smokin,
De-velopment ? you ? you gotta be jokin.

KK (all rights reserved)

misfit41 08-22-2003 02:47 PM

WOW,I was just thinking,,these guys have way too much time on their hands,then I realized I had read 8 pages of this bickering,haha
I am wondering first just which cobra we all see as inferior as someone said,please enlighten me .
I sure hope I dont offend any one here,I have met some nice people on this site, I have also made some observations:
1: anyone who built his or her own car,with their own hands,on a weekly paycheck will never ditch someone elses car.
2:the cool high school hot rodders who got the hot girls and dreamed of the hot cars,while the more studious guys were being made fun of and squeezing pimples.unfortunately arent always the guys who get the hot cars,does "Revenge of the Nerds " ring a bell ?
It's the same thing as street rods,the big check book ruins the sport,give me sweat and passion,along with a few flaws.In my opinion these people have more heart, I mean someone some day will own #198,but then it will just be another high dollar car.Tk

Excaliber 08-22-2003 04:50 PM

Assolutley!!!! In high school the cars that were admired were the cars the guys BUILT! The kid drivng the mostly new Vette didn't get much respect,,,,,,(but he DID get the girls). Hmmmmm, what does it all mean?

Ernie

BT SNAKE 08-22-2003 06:43 PM

Freddy, You make any more posts like that and I'm gonna have to wear Depends as a safety measure while reading this forum.:LOL: :3DSMILE: :3DSMILE:
Gees ! That was funny!!! Now I got this indelible picture in my head of Freddie wearing an orange robe with a bald head sitting in the full lotus position humming hey little cobra..:JEKYLHYDE :3DSMILE: :3DSMILE:

Hersh:)


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