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computerworks 09-26-2007 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobraEd
What means COB & COX ?
.

Serial number prefixes used by AC

CSX was Cobra Shelby eXport
COB was Cobra Oem Britain (UK)
COX was Cobra Oem eXport

CNGreen 09-26-2007 01:55 PM

Yes but as you stated they were the supplier of rolling stock the Shelby. I'm OK with that from a historical / lineage point of view.

What I don't get is the crossover into what is clearly a clone or copy of a Shelby being included. Obviously there would never be an allowance for FFRs or ERAs for example, so why are Kirkhams included and other MFG's excluded? Does it become a point of accuracy? Where is the line drawn? Aluminum skin? Licensing agreements?

FYI I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just expressing my opinion.

:)

FatBoy 09-26-2007 01:58 PM

My understanding was that the "C" in CSX & COB was simply the third letter in the alphabet to denote the third series cars. The previous series Ace's chassis numbers started with "A" and then "B".
I don't believe the "C" had anything to do with "Cobra".

Paul

computerworks 09-26-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNGreen
What I don't get is the crossover into what is clearly a clone or copy of a Shelby being included. Obviously there would never be an allowance for FFRs or ERAs for example, so why are Kirkhams included and other MFG's excluded? Does it become a point of accuracy? Where is the line drawn? Aluminum skin? Licensing agreements?

Sure...understand.

It is the degree of accuracy and, more so, the aluminum body, in addition to the relationship as supplier of same to Shelby Autos.

computerworks 09-26-2007 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatBoy
My understanding was that the "C" in CSX & COB was simply the third letter in the alphabet to denote the third series cars. The previous series Ace's chassis numbers started with "A" and then "B".
I don't believe the "C" had anything to do with "Cobra".

Paul

I gave the simple explanation...most people see the C as Cobra.

You're right it was the third product family to use the sequence...and, as such, was "C"

...but, it was no coincidence that:
"A" was for Ace
"B" was for Bristol
and...
"C" was for Cobra

big-boss 09-26-2007 02:11 PM

I will only participate in being a tool for the man, just because. I really do not think the KMP's should be in the regestry. I especially do not think the GT's should be there either. I am even totally against having the true "Poser" Shelby --the CSX cars in their either.
Book should have only original Shelbys!

New CSX's are a disgrase to the breed, fiberglass bodies, better cooling, better brakes, bla, bla, bla. Just another Replica with a fifty thousand dollar signature.- Saw one on a FFR at Monteray. Go figure?

If you want to be a Shelby owner step up and buy- Don't get the "Carbon Credit Feel Good" model and then hang out with the "Real" guys with your polished 482 KC motored chest hanging out- total "wanibee". I also think the government should not provide healtcare to your kids so you can keep gas in the Suburban!

LET US GET BACK TO THE FOUNDATION!

Excaliber 09-26-2007 02:25 PM

Correct, nobody said COB or COX was a Shelby, just like no one is saying a Kirkham is a Shelby.

SPF seems to have a bit of problem in that regard... :LOL:

carmine 09-26-2007 02:40 PM

Im sure Shelbys given his blessing to adding Kirkham to the registry, and at the end of the day, thats what counts.

jdog 09-26-2007 03:11 PM

Re-body?
 
If I re-body my CSX car with an alum Kirkham, do I get in the registry twice?:JEKYLHYDE

jdog;)

computerworks 09-26-2007 03:29 PM

...you become a "story car"

xlr8or 09-26-2007 03:56 PM

I thought we already read that story.

Kzof 09-26-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNGreen
What a scam. I love Kirkhams. But the only cars that should be in the registry are Shelbys. Period. The Kirkham is a great car but it doesn't belong in the registry any more than my Factory Five does.


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ENTDOC 09-26-2007 04:19 PM

hehe.........

A-Snake 09-26-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Stryffeler
I can understand the logic of including Kirkhams in the registry, at least based on the statements from the SAAC website main page. But I still don't think it is correct to include the cars in a "Shelby" registry,......
Dan

Dan, I'm not sure I understand your post. The next Shelby American World Registry will contain chapters on various 'models' of Cobras and GT40's etc. The Kirkhams will be in a section for Kirkhams just as the AC MK IV has its own section. They are not listed with original period Cobras.
Some time later a second volumn will cover the Shelby's (GT350 etc), both orginal period cars and all others.

jdog 09-26-2007 04:46 PM

Prolog!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8or
I thought we already read that story.

That was just the prolog. I haven't actually done it yet. %/

Although I'm seeing more reasons to do it every day!:rolleyes:

jdog

A-Snake 09-26-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by computerworks
Serial number prefixes used by AC

CSX was Cobra Shelby eXport
COB was Cobra Oem Britain (UK)
COX was Cobra Oem eXport

Thus COB is right hand drive and COX is left hand drive.:p

Jamo 09-26-2007 04:54 PM

My COX doesn't care which hand.

PatBuckley 09-26-2007 05:36 PM

Does your COB care which ho......never mind.

REAL 1 09-26-2007 05:44 PM

My point was that neither COXs or COB ever saw SAI in the US. They were finished by AC and had AC badges. AC's supplied the bodies for the CSXs to SAI and CSXs wore Cobra badges.

Kirkhams that are not Shelbys never see SAI and do not wear Cobra badges from the Kirkham factory. Kirkham like AC also supplies SAI with bodies and chasis ala' AC in the 60 for Shelby Cobras.

Thats my point.

Jamo 09-26-2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatBuckley
Does your COB care which ho......never mind.

I am not French!


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