National Speed Limit

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

So you have encountered someone who is not courteous. Someone who is obviously an AH. And you decide that makes it right for you to be non-courteous to other drivers. The driver you complained about is an AH for a small percentage of the time he is on the road, just the small percentage of time it takes him to get over to the exit lane. --- The other day I was at the end of a line of about 15 cars stuck behind a left lane hog. I kept a cool head and left a good safety gap between the car in front of me. But the 14 cars infront of me were not. Brake lights are flashing up and down the line when the cars are too close. They were all riding each others bumper, creating a real safety hazard. Imagine if there was an accident, potentially all 14 cars in front of me could be involved. All because there is someone hogging the left lane at a speed that the other drivers consider slower than their daily average commute speed.

Those other 14 people were AH's as well, 100% of the time they are on the road. If there was an accident, it would also be their fault as well, maybe more so. It's good that you keep distance, as I do. When I come up on a slower car, and he doesn't move, I pass him safely on the right. There's no need for me to "enforce" anything to the slower driver, as many people on here feel compelled to do.

When the police start enforcing courtesy driving issues, then maybe it'll all be straightened out. But, I can tell you, when the traffic is medium to medium heavy, I will be in the left lane. My plan in life is to live and enjoy it, and not be involved in an accident by some AH cutting in front of me, trying to cross multiple lanes to get off of an exit, or crossing many lanes, dodging traffic to try to get 5 car lengths ahead, which is very often on a highway with multiple/many exits.

It's also appears to me that you still are very annoyed when slower people don;t get out of your way, although you say you don't drive aggressively.

If I'm in the left lane, and you come up on me, I give you permission to pass me on the right as well.

Stay Cool.

[McD00]

Several years ago I was driving in the left lane about 10mph over the speed limit when some idiot came up behind me flashing his lights. He couldn't wait 2 seconds for me to move over so he passed on the right swerved in front of me and jumped on the brakes I damn near hit him....that pissed me off So I did the same damn thing to him except I realy slammed on the brakes....he hit me in the assend...lost control and spun into the median. I watched in the rear view intil he got out of his car. Stupid SOB....I taught him a lesson. He made me spill my coffee.

McVette

[kobrabytes]

Originally Posted by McD00

Several years ago I was driving in the left lane about 10mph over the speed limit when some idiot came up behind me flashing his lights. He couldn't wait 2 seconds for me to move over so he passed on the right swerved in front of me and jumped on the brakes I damn near hit him....that pissed me off So I did the same damn thing to him except I realy slammed on the brakes....he hit me in the assend...lost control and spun into the median. I watched in the rear view intil he got out of his car. Stupid SOB....I taught him a lesson. He made me spill my coffee.

McVette

Gee... costly way of making your point.

I hope it's not worth killing someone to make your point. I personally would rather be alive than right. Just let it go.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by McD00

Several years ago I was driving in the left lane about 10mph over the speed limit when some idiot came up behind me flashing his lights. He couldn't wait 2 seconds for me to move over so he passed on the right swerved in front of me and jumped on the brakes I damn near hit him....that pissed me off So I did the same damn thing to him except I realy slammed on the brakes....he hit me in the assend...lost control and spun into the median. I watched in the rear view intil he got out of his car. Stupid SOB....I taught him a lesson. He made me spill my coffee.

McVette

He wasn't the only one showing their stupidity.
Way to go ace, maybe next time you can cause a rollover, would that make you feel better?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by McD00

Several years ago I was driving in the left lane about 10mph over the speed limit when some idiot came up behind me flashing his lights. He couldn't wait 2 seconds for me to move over so he passed on the right swerved in front of me and jumped on the brakes I damn near hit him....that pissed me off So I did the same damn thing to him except I realy slammed on the brakes....he hit me in the assend...lost control and spun into the median. I watched in the rear view intil he got out of his car. Stupid SOB....I taught him a lesson. He made me spill my coffee.

McVette

Damn...you just keep opening that window into your head a bit more each time you post.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Anthony

If I'm in the left lane, and you come up on me, I give you permission to pass me on the right as well.

Stay Cool.

All the other posters here are wrong except Anthony, just ask him.

This exchange has been like trying to communicate with a spoiled little 10 year old.
Logic, accountability, and common sense are some form of strange unknown concept to you sir.
Your stubborn, selfish, self absorbed stance reflects that you are nothing more than a road rage warrior trolling for an accident. Trying to compensate for that void of lost self esteem you carry onto the highway is dangerous and smug. Sooner or later your actions are going to injure or kill you and those around you.
You exemplify two issues that most participating in this thread already know.
First, you are a rude driver and rude drivers suck.
The second is you can't cure stupid.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Those other 14 people were AH's as well, 100% of the time they are on the road. If there was an accident, it would also be their fault as well, maybe more so. It's good that you keep distance, as I do. When I come up on a slower car, and he doesn't move, I pass him safely on the right. There's no need for me to "enforce" anything to the slower driver, as many people on here feel compelled to do.

When the police start enforcing courtesy driving issues, then maybe it'll all be straightened out. But, I can tell you, when the traffic is medium to medium heavy, I will be in the left lane. My plan in life is to live and enjoy it, and not be involved in an accident by some AH cutting in front of me, trying to cross multiple lanes to get off of an exit, or crossing many lanes, dodging traffic to try to get 5 car lengths ahead, which is very often on a highway with multiple/many exits.

It's also appears to me that you still are very annoyed when slower people don;t get out of your way, although you say you don't drive aggressively.

If I'm in the left lane, and you come up on me, I give you permission to pass me on the right as well.

Stay Cool.

It is OK to get annoyed with people who don't get out of your way. I don't consider myself to be an aggressive driver, if I don't tail gate them. I'll pass them on the right if they don't move over. I don't consider myself to be an aggressive driver when I just continue on my way instead of trying to slow down in front of the slower driver when I pass him/her. However, the slower driver should be courteous and get out of the way. If I see someone coming up faster behind me and find traffic to the right, I'll sometimes speed up to find a gap in the slower lane to get out of the way.

A couple of years ago, I found myself behind a passing lane hog who was doing around 50 in a 55 and who was also pacing the driver in the slow lane. I was not tail gating, and finally saw a gap, passed on the right and shot up to about 70 or 75 rather quickly in my "arrest me red" RX-7. I checked my rear view mirror to see the passing lane hog was disappearing behind me, when I noticed there was a state trooper directly behind him (so the trooper was behind me before I took off). Shortly after that, the passing lane hog moved to the right, so the trooper could pass him. The state trooper eventually passed me. I wonder if the trooper had to flash his lights or beep at the moron to get him to move to the right? Maybe the lane hog thought he was making way for the trooper to chase me. But he was wrong.

All I'm trying to say is, if you see nobody in front of you and a whole line of cars behind you, why not try moving to the right. Or if there is a constant stream of cars passing you on the right, consider moving to a slower lane. Instead of taking pride in annoying others, why not try taking pride in yourself for not annoying others?

[HI Cobra]

"All I'm trying to say is, if you see nobody in front of you and a whole line of cars behind you, why not try moving to the right. Or if there is a constant stream of cars passing you on the right, consider moving to a slower lane. Instead of taking pride in annoying others, why not try taking pride in yourself for not annoying others?"

Bingo. Thanks 1ntCobra - That is what is called consideration to others - and awareness.
If a few more people on the road observed this, what a nicer drive it would
be.

This thread sure has gone on but has been an interesting read - and does
illustrate why driving isn't what it could be.

[Juggernaut]

Hasn't this thread about run it's useful life yet?

Think it's time to let it fade away into the sunset, but thats just me.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=Anthony;
When the police start enforcing courtesy driving issues, then maybe it'll all be straightened out. [/QUOTE]

"Courtesy(s)"are NOT in the DMV code,so just what the hell are the cops going to enforce?

You are BREAKING the law by traveling in the left lane but you're are going to wait untill the cops enforce imaginary laws before you comply with CODIFIED law?

How does it feel to never have to worry about being "legally" executed?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

:You are BREAKING the law by traveling in the left lane (

Actually, I'm not Billy, at least in my state. I would guess the laws are similar in your state as well, just that you don;t know them.



(A) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(1) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or when making a left turn under the rules governing such movements;

(2) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided, any person so doing shall yield the right of way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;

(3) When driving upon a roadway divided into three or more marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon;

(4) When driving upon a roadway designated and posted with signs for one-way traffic;

(5) When otherwise directed by a police officer or traffic control device.

(B)(1) Upon all roadways any vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding at less than the prevailing and lawful speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, and far enough to the right to allow passing by faster vehicles if such passing is safe and reasonable, except under any of the following circumstances:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding in the same direction ;

(b) When preparing for a left turn;

(c) When the driver must necessarily drive in a lane other than the right-hand lane to continue on the driver’s intended route.

(2) Nothing in division (B)(1) of this section requires a driver of a slower vehicle to compromise the driver’s safety to allow overtaking by a faster vehicle.

(C) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven to the left of the center line of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use the lanes, or except as permitted under division (A)(2) of this section.

This division shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the center line in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.

(D) Except as otherwise provided in this division, whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor. If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to one predicate motor vehicle or traffic offense, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of two or more predicate motor vehicle or traffic offenses, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the third degree.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004; 09-21-2006



(A) The driver of a vehicle or trackless trolley may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle or trackless trolley only under the following conditions:

(1) When the vehicle or trackless trolley overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;

(2) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Actually, I'm not Billy, at least in my state. I would guess the laws are similar in your state as well, just that you don;t know them.



(A) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(1) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or when making a left turn under the rules governing such movements;

(2) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided, any person so doing shall yield the right of way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;

(3) When driving upon a roadway divided into three or more marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon;

(4) When driving upon a roadway designated and posted with signs for one-way traffic;

(5) When otherwise directed by a police officer or traffic control device.

(B)(1) Upon all roadways any vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding at less than the prevailing and lawful speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, and far enough to the right to allow passing by faster vehicles if such passing is safe and reasonable, except under any of the following circumstances:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding in the same direction ;

(b) When preparing for a left turn;

(c) When the driver must necessarily drive in a lane other than the right-hand lane to continue on the driver’s intended route.

(2) Nothing in division (B)(1) of this section requires a driver of a slower vehicle to compromise the driver’s safety to allow overtaking by a faster vehicle.

(C) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven to the left of the center line of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use the lanes, or except as permitted under division (A)(2) of this section.

This division shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the center line in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.

If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to one predicate motor vehicle or traffic offense, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of two or more predicate motor vehicle or traffic offenses, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the third degree.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004; 09-21-2006



(A) The driver of a vehicle or trackless trolley may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle or trackless trolley only under the following conditions:

(1) When the vehicle or trackless trolley overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;

(2) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

Don't know them?The 2008 book is sitting on my desk you arrogant prick.

Look at your own rules:
(A) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

This means right lane is for travel except for listed circumstances.Show me the variance that states:"unless you are an a$$hole and wanting to subjectively enforce your own made up rules."

__________________________________________________ _____________
(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding in the same direction ;

This means you drive in the right lane UNLESS you are overtaking e.t.c.
__________________________________________________ ___________
(D) Except as otherwise provided in this division, whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.

This means YOU are guilty of a misdemeanor-genius.

ALL states have the "slower traffic stays right/pass on left laws".


Post another non-sequitur.I'll be waiting.

BTW-what's it like pounding a beat in -18 degree weather?