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CSX2317 For Sale $675K
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Just saw this at Fantasy Junction, Rack & Pinion car........I do not know much history about it, please feel free to fill in the blanks. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/used-...2b214074da0a70 Proud price !!!!!!!%/%/%/%/ Tony R. |
BFG Goodrich TA's on a half million dollar car? Now if it had an Edlebrock carb to go along with that, "Attention, Walmart shoppers, special on isle 9." :LOL:
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Wasn't this Cobra CSX2317 on ebay last week ,100k less ? Should it cost more with Webbers? Makes Kirkham FIA KMPS032 like a great deal !! And its got Webbers to boot.... R.H.M. |
The spinners look like they're just "hanging by a thread"
That doesn't look right. Not saying I would kick it to the curb though:LOL: |
Hello 86Sebring
The wheels and spinners are correct for this car hard to believe it but it 's true, look at the Kirkham for sale on club cobra or in Rinsey Mills AC COBRA book, in paticular page 94. Thank You R.H.M. |
Csx 3018........yes!
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Of course it's a nice ride! BUT, the restoration appears, to me, to have been done with WAY to many 'off the shelf' modern parts readily available from any number of sources (including Walmart). Under the hood it shows, tires are another example. Perhaps the air cleaner is 'correct' but it to looks a little to 'modern' if you would. Alternator is yet another example. I suspect a closer look at the car overall would reveal a classic case of 'over restored'. Nothing special here...
TONY, good post! Thanks for putting it up, it's nice to be able to track the originals, good, bad and ugly. |
Excaliber, that alternator looks like the 1964 Ford alternator. Same one ERA used on my FIA. Same color (similar) to my ERA FIA.
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It looks like the terminals 'plug in' to the alternator and I'd bet Ford didn't start doing 'plug in' terminals until at least decade or so later.
...but I could be wrong. :D By the way, I think late '64 was the first year for an alternator. They were more commonly found in 1965. Did the 289's come from the factory with alternators? |
The wheels are modern FIA's, not original FIA's. Those wing nuts look scary !
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Air cleaner is a proper 289 hipo unit, good for the car. I don't know about the "overrestored" part. For that kind of money I would want more than a good body and paint. Showing its age too much everywhere else.
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Interesting update on the alternator A-Snake, seems to me that would make the Cobra's among the first in the USA to run one, very late '63, likely '64 for most of them by the time they hit the street. I can't think of any other Ford product that would have come with an alternator in '63? Or any other American car for that matter...
Rick427, good call, 'over restored' would not be the right term for this car as it is showing it's age here and there. Can't quite put my finger on it, how about: 'It was a fine wine, but has not aged well...' |
A-Snake is correct about the air cleaner. The one for the Cobra was sourced from Fairlane application and had a Chromed "wavy" top, it is sometimes seen painted in other early 60's Ford applications. This one is a cheap repop for a Mustang. The alternator is correct. 1st generation 42 amp, plug in connector is correct; first used in 63 for some other Ford and Mercury applications.
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40 and 60 amp Leece/Neville alternators were optional equipment on the Fairlane at least back to 1962.
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A rare example to be sure! Even most 64 Falcons, for instance, had a generator. Police versions would have been among the first cars. Top of the line models like the Galaxie or big Mercury's in '63 perhaps, but not common. F-100 trucks, not likely. Pretty cool the Cobra ranks right up there with the best! But plug in style??? Hmmm, searching for something to confirm that (Google to the rescue)! :LOL: I sure don't recall a plug in on the early Fords I worked on... The first Mustangs were generators.
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Ok, I'm a believer, for the 1964 COBRA application. I'm left wondering what other Ford applications this alternator was used on, if any, or was it unique to the Cobra... It is a safe bet to say MOST Ford products didn't even have alternators until 1965.
Lyn Parks original survivor 289, they don't get any more 'real' than this. :D Note the unusual exhaust 'headers'. http://image.motortrend.com/f/923074...289+engine.jpg |
Ernie my man:
The headers are what the manifolds actually looked like on the 289 cars and maybe the 260s (not sure). They led to 2 individual tubes that joined into 1 on each side under the car then to mufflers essentially under the seats and then out the back. Often the mufflers can be seen in a side view. The large photo posted is of the alternator on my car. I found it on a 1963 Mercury Montclair (big car). The 3 wires attach with a plastic wire connector that has 2 female spades and a flat eyelet with a 1/4" hole that fits over a threaded stud and secures the attaching plug to the alternator diode plate from the rear. I foolishly clipped the wires too short when I originally found the alternator at a wrecking yard many years ago. I have been trying to find a cource for a repop of the harness and plastic connector but to no avail. I anyone knows of a solid source I would appreciate the info. All later alternators that I have seen all had their wires attached separately on studs. The photo of Lynns survivor has the air filter housing I was describing. BTW, as I understand it this car was owned by Fred Offenhouser, the speed part manufacturer, known for intake manifolds. |
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