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09-23-2008, 05:41 PM
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FFR forum is not company run...It's privately owned solely by Bill, ""THE BANNED FOR LIFE GUY!""
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09-23-2008, 06:26 PM
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Interesting that the shock thread is locked over there. I guess that's to keep anyone from asking any important "questions".
I hope they get it sorted out quickly so guys affected can get thier cars back on the road.
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09-23-2008, 09:05 PM
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Why don't you and the hillbilly get down in there and bite me.
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09-23-2008, 09:12 PM
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Bill has a site that caters to lots of different personalities who have an interest in a single marque...that can be a tough road to travel. Real easy to implode if it's just allowed to run free.
Not suggesting anyone agree...merely be open to understanding.
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09-24-2008, 10:26 AM
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Jamo, my incident had to do with 100 shirts someone was selling that I wanted to know about ordering..Somehow my inquiry got to Bill and the first thing he said to me in an FFR email was, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? (AS IF I WERE A DUMMY) I JUST DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY HE RESPONDED , in the heat of the discussion I told him that he was just like a ""HITLER!"" Guess I shouldn't have gone that far....BUTTTTTTT, HE BANNED ME FOR IT FOR LIFE....NOW , THAT IS THE HONEST TRUTH!! I REALLY HOPE THAT BILL GETS A RESPONSE FROM THIS BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE BANNED.....I DISAGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH HIS ""TACTICS!"" ANYWAY, I LOVE THIS SITE......
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09-24-2008, 02:32 PM
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ffcobra.com is a private entity. You don't have "rights" there. If you came on my property and called me Hitler I'd probably ban your azz az well. 
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09-24-2008, 03:05 PM
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ffcobra.com is a private entity. You don't have "rights" there. If you came on my property and called me Hitler I'd probably ban your azz az well. 
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You are correct. These sites belong to some one else and we need to play by their rules. We have no rights, except to choose to start our own site and make our own rules.
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09-24-2008, 03:58 PM
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Siverback51....YESSSSSSS!! let's do that....First order of businss is FREE SPEECH..LISTEN, ALL I DID WAS FIGHT BACK..BILL POURED ALL OVER ME AND I WASN'T ABOUT TO TAKE IT FOR SURE AND NEITHER WOULD YOU HAVE....dave
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09-24-2008, 04:06 PM
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Let's keep the conversation on topic relating to the shocks.
davids, you can work out your issues with ffcobra.com management off-line...or not.
but...not here.
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09-24-2008, 04:49 PM
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Ron's right, and I shouldn't have inquired. By the way, this site is not supported by tax dollars...Free Speech is inapplicable.
Back the the shocks...
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09-24-2008, 04:49 PM
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Ok Will Do......dave
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09-24-2008, 05:04 PM
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Oh by the way... I have the Pro Shocks.
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09-24-2008, 06:22 PM
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I have some really cool Koni's as a replacement if anyones interested.
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09-24-2008, 07:58 PM
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Gordon, do you have Konis for a live axle in stock?
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09-24-2008, 08:21 PM
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I think I may after I fill the current orders.
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09-24-2008, 10:03 PM
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Alright Gordon, what's the deal? You know I'm hurt'n here with barely a week till Thunderhill! LOL
Talk soon, John 
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09-26-2008, 05:24 AM
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I'm leaning toward Pro-Shocks in Ga. They are very helpful and have a variety to choose from depending on the setup you want. It looks like no matter what FFR does we will be out of pocket, luckily I can do the labor there are a lot of people who will have to pay mechanic adding to the cost and aggravation factor.
FFR and Bilstein hold total responsibility and should compensate their customers for supplying inferior products. FFR went looking for a shock setup in quantity and Bilstein fulfilled the requset with product that met the bare minimum to meet cost requirements. This happens every day in all types of business the problem her is that a lot of those other issues are not part of a vehicl capable of extreme speeds.
I have a total passion for my FFR and had had alot of fun with it. I am seriously thinking of another build, bigger better,faster,stronger and safer you know what I mean. This situation has me looking in the other direction like BDR TD cars.
On another issue there a lot of times I don't have time to look at these forums and just happened across this other than that I would not have known there was another problem. I would have thought FFR would have gotten in touch some way or another with the customer to warn them. OK I'm done I think my wifes OCD is contagious.
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09-26-2008, 05:01 PM
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I'm curious if it's a problem with the shock it's self, or if the design of the suspension overloads it in some way which causes it to fail.
Could be it's the wrong part for the job, and not the shocks fault.
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09-26-2008, 07:29 PM
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The B-Steins are seriously undersized and I think that's the bottom line. I just got a set of the Pro-Shocks that FFR provided before the B-Steins and they make them look like toys. The Pros are also rebuildable.
If I had the bucks I'd get Gordon's Konis, but I'm too broke to pay attention this year. 
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