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Old 12-24-2008, 06:33 AM
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This place should give the Old Grouch a little fairer treatment than the KooLaid drinkers. Thanks for keepin'it civil, Jammer. that said, let the courts deside this one also.
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Lucky for all of us that other car manufacturers aren't as petty as ole Shel.

Think about all the other re-bodied and fabricated replicas (33 Fords, Anglias, Willy's, etc.) that would be sued out of existence.

Shel, go quietly from this world!
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Does CS smell blood? Poor economy, shock issue, release of 33 Hot Rod, working on exact copy of **** Smith's 198 Cobra: FFR could be over extended in 2009. What a better time to hit FFR again, and add in the rest. I do not like this at all.

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From what I heard, the Shelby booth at SEMA was fairly close to the FFR booth.

FFR had lots of crowds and interest in their cars, while the Shelby booth was fairly empty.

Coincidence? I don't think so!

I think their lawyers are going to try and BK FFR (or force a settlement) or they will kill them with defense costs.

The guy with the deepest pockets wins. Guess who that will be?
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From what I heard, the Shelby booth at SEMA was fairly close to the FFR booth.

FFR had lots of crowds and interest in their cars, while the Shelby booth was fairly empty.

Coincidence? I don't think so!

I was there and that is not true at all!
In fact I do not remember seeing a FFR booth and I do remember a packed CS booth when he was there signing autographs.


I just read what the FFR guy wrote in his letter. I really don't mean to start anything, but at the SEMA show, the Shelby Cobras, GT-40s, engines, etc. were in the DenBeste booth and it was always busy. Please understand, I mean always. As for the Shelby Booth, they had a Shelby Parts booth with all of the late model Mustang stuff, that was a little less attended. I am sure that is not the booth FFR is referring to, right???

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IMHO, the only reason the Old Man settled with SPF is he needed a source for manufacturing his cars since he was so far backordered he was in danger of going bankrupt from cancelled orders. I don't think it had a thing to do with royalties on the SPF coupe, but it may have had something to do with an agreement to share the originals designs/drawings with SPF of the Coupe in order to persuade SPF into building Shelby cars.

Since SPF had the manufacturing facilities and man power in South Africa, he was able to catch up his orders in a fairly timely fashion and probably for far less than other sources were costing him at the time.

Now what do you think would happen if SPF and Ole Shel' came to a disagreement over something like, oh, nonpayment by Shelby Enterprises or something like that? I'm pretty sure it hasn't been the first time....
Since Shelby only has SPF making his glass cars and Kirkham is making his tin cars, it's pretty safe to assume those two won't be in the lawyers glare until at least the bigger boys are taken care of.
If by some miracle FFR loses this suit (not likely), how long do you think before all the other smaller manufacturers fall, the side/cottage suppliers are gone, and everything Cobra is controlled by Shelby Ent. Inc?

Even as a scratch builder, I can't imagine what it might cost to source Shelby controlled parts and I don't really want to know. I'm with the majority that believes we should be supporting FFR in this fight for our own good and that of the kit car industry as a whole.

Maybe FFR could apply for some of that bail out money right behind GM, Ford, and Chrysler?

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