SAAC #35 at Willow Springs, CA

[RodKnock]

Now where's Willow Springs, CA?

[WarrenG]

About 1.5 hours north of LA in the middle of nowhere. Perfect location for a racetrack. Great Track.

[REAL 1]

This reminds me why I lose interest in SAAC. Year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast. One year on the east coast. Then middle of the country (Pittsburgh) then back to more year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast.

The West Coast has Shelby events all year long. The east coast is not as fortunate to have the same weather all year long.

Just rejoined after years away from SAAC. I think I'll let my membership lapse once again.

BS.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This reminds me why I lose interest in SAAC. Year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast. One year on the east coast. Then middle of the country (Pittsburgh) then back to more year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast.
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You REALly do have no idea of what you are talking about, do you?

Do your homework...

2 conventions in California in the last 20 years

SAAC-1 OAKLAND, CA.................. AUGUST 19-20-21, 1976
SAAC-2 HERSHEY, PA............................JULY 8-9-10, 1977
SAAC-3 PASADENA, CA..................AUGUST 17-18-19, 1978
SAAC-4 DOWNINGTOWN, PA...............JUNE 28-29-30, 1979
SAAC-5 DEARBORN, MI............................JULY 3-4-5, 1980
SAAC-6 MONTEREY, CA..................AUGUST 18-19-20, 1981
SAAC-7 GREAT GORGE, NJ..............AUGUST 12-13-14, 1982
SAAC-8 DEARBORN, MI............................JULY 1-2-3, 1983
SAAC-9 ANAHEIM, CA....................AUGUST 17-18-19, 1984
SAAC-10 GREAT GORGE, NJ...................JULY 11-12-13, 1985
SAAC-11 DEARBORN, MI............................JULY 3-4-5, 1986
SAAC-12 CHARLOTTE, NC...........................JULY 2-3-4, 1987
SAAC-13 SANTA ROSA, CA.........................JULY 1-2-3, 1988
SAAC-14 POCONO, PA...........................JULY 13-14-15, 1989
SAAC-15 DEARBORN, MI.............................JULY 5-6-7, 1990
SAAC-16 CHARLOTTE, NC......................JUNE 27-28-29, 1991
SAAC-17 PORTLAND, OR.............................JULY 7-8-9, 1992
SAAC-18 WATKINS GLEN, NY.................JULY 7- 8-9-10, 1993
SAAC-19 INDIANAPOLIS, IN................JUNE 30-JULY 1-2 1994
SAAC-20 ATLANTA, GA.............................. JULY 6-7-8, 1995
SAAC-21 LIME ROCK, CT...................... JULY 2-3-4-5-6, 1996
SAAC-22 ELKHART LAKE, WI..............JULY 14-15-16-17, 1997
SAAC-23 CHARLOTTE, NC.......................JULY 10-11-12 1998
SAAC-24 BROOKLYN, MI .....................JUNE 25-26-27, 1999
SAAC-25 LIME ROCK, CT...............JUNE 30-JULY 1-2-3, 2000
SAAC-26 CHARLOTTE, NC...........................JULY 6-7-8, 2001
SAAC-27 FONTANA, CA.............................JULY 5-6-7, 2002
SAAC-28 NASHVILLE, TN........................MAY 23-24-25, 2003
SAAC-29 BROOKLYN, MI.............................JULY 2-3-4, 2004
SAAC-30 FONTANA, CA.............................JULY 1-2-3, 2005
SAAC-31 VIRGINIA INTNL RACEWAY..............JULY 1-2-3 2006
SAAC-32 TOOELE, UT.................................JULY 6-7-8, 2007
SAAC-33 MILLVILLE, NJ.....................AUGUST 15-16-17, 2008
SAAC-34 BEAVERUN, PA.......................AUGUST 6-7-8, 2009

[4pipes]

Thanks Ron. I was just thinking "why don't they ever have one in Northern California"?

[RodKnock]

Yes, thank you Ron for posting the list. I thought CA gets very few conventions. Two? East Coast bias, just like the sports media. It's always about the ACC, SEC or the Big East

The last one I attended had to be Infineon in 1988. My guess is that CA racetracks are just too darn expensive.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This reminds me why I lose interest in SAAC. Year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast. One year on the east coast. Then middle of the country (Pittsburgh) then back to more year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast.

The West Coast has Shelby events all year long. The east coast is not as fortunate to have the same weather all year long.

Just rejoined after years away from SAAC. I think I'll let my membership lapse once again.

BS.

Maybe they'll pro-rate your membership and give you a partial refund, if you have your resignation letter on their desk in the morning, promise never to join again and cease and desist using their name to underpin any of your points of view .

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This reminds me why I lose interest in SAAC. Year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast. One year on the east coast. Then middle of the country (Pittsburgh) then back to more year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast.

The West Coast has Shelby events all year long. The east coast is not as fortunate to have the same weather all year long.

Just rejoined after years away from SAAC. I think I'll let my membership lapse once again.

BS.

When did Pittsburgh move to the middle of the country?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

When did Pittsburgh move to the middle of the country?

Well, there's nothing West of the Mississppi, right?

So PA would be in the middle.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Well, there's nothing West of the Mississppi, right?

So PA would be in the middle.

Well I guess that would explain it.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This reminds me why I lose interest in SAAC. Year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast. One year on the east coast. Then middle of the country (Pittsburgh) then back to more year after year of SAAC conventions on the West Coast.

The West Coast has Shelby events all year long. The east coast is not as fortunate to have the same weather all year long.

Just rejoined after years away from SAAC. I think I'll let my membership lapse once again.

BS.

I suppose your definition of the east coast only includes NJ? Is Pittsburgh any further than say North Carolina?

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Hows about us poor, dumb cajuns here in Louisiana????????, yes we do have a couple of real Shelbys and real Cobras down here....

The nearest convention to us folks here was in Nashville, only a 10 hour drive, and it "only" took me 16 hours to get to VIR in 06!!!!!!!!!

And then I see folks *****ing and moaning about having to drive more than 2 hours to get to a convention!!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!!!!!!

David

[4pipes]

But David, you have Jazzfest!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

The east coast is not as fortunate to have the same weather all year long.

Yes, this is a correct statement.

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD
.......He also gave a REALly good explaination as to how/why the sites are picked for the yearly convention, made a lot of sence, to me anyway!!!!!!!!:

For you, cajun buddy... I'll look it up:

Dats do one I was referring too........tanks....

Oh, and based on the above post by Mr. Gagnard I was RIGHT AGAIN!

Only to the fact as to where the membership is located......On all other points, your missing the boat badly....Let me assplain:

In 06, we loaded up and went to VIR... I booked room/track time and all other related things at least 6 months ahead. We ended up with 6 or 7 truck loads of folks (wives/kids) and 4 or 5 cars, we trekked half way across the US (16 hours total driving each way), made it a 2 day drive each way, spent 3 days/nights in Virginia... All toll we were gone 7 days. Being I'm just a poor,dumb self-employed cajun, I made NO money while I took the time off,actually lost a weeks worth of wages and spent something north of 4 grand for the whole excursion.... It was a our vacation for the year!!!!!

Would I do it again???, in a New York second, without blinking an eye!!! Met up with a bunch of old friends from the northeast I'd seen at other SAAC conventions and made a bunch of new friends from the northeast, Ron being one of them and your group buddies known as Club Cranky, even broke bread with em one night as well as a large bottle of adult beverages....

Enjoyed the cars and fellowship of the folks there, to me that's what it's all about.....And I don't even have a real Shelby!!!!!!!!! I gots a 66 GT-350 clone/look-a-like/fakey do or whatever you want to call it and a homemade 65 Coupe race car that started life a a little six cylinder grocery getter for someone in south Louisiana!!!!!!!!

My wife still talks about some of the things we did that week, she's proud as hell of the fact that she ran in the Ladies event and came in second in a field of 20 or so cars, got video of it.....We still talk about the fact that going thru Atlanta traffic in the rush hour, the truck/trailer in front of me had a blow-out on the rear trailer tire at 75mph, towing a 65 GT-350 racer, the peices of tire hit my truck and trailer, luckily doing no damage. Pulling over and changing a tire on a loaded trailer ain't no fun. Then on the return trip, the same trailer burnt a wheel bearing just as we were exiting the interstate somewhere in Alabama. Luckily I carry a spare set of wheel bearing for my trailer and they fit his trailer, but did you ever try to find a tire store (screwed up the tire also) on sunday afternoon right at dark on the Forth of July weekend in small town Alabama or remove a set of red hot burnt wheel bearing in a hotel parking lot in the rain with your wife holding a flashlight for you to see what your burning your hands on???????

At the track I gave my spare thermstat and gasket to some fellow for his GT-350, so he could get it on the track, his old one had froze up, don't know his name, probably never see him again, doesn't matter...One session on track, ran door handle to door handle with Dick Smith (RIP Dick) down the front straight at 140 mph, he and I talked about it after, he wanted to know what I had under the hood....... Helped another guy work on his race car for an hour or so one day, no big deal, dats what we do for folks in need....

Wouldn't trade the memories and friendships made/rekindled for all the tea in China.......

To me, that's what the SAAC conventions are about......

David

[John McMahon]

Hmmmm.....David Gagnard....let me think about a few few highlights after having towed those 'horrible' 10 hours to VIR.....

Club Cranky in a face off on track w/ the late Dick Smith (the bestus and most gracious man I have ever met). Had the balls to come over and shake our hands for putting him in his place....



Billy Andrews of HRE fame and the late Dick Smith sharing a moment with the 2 grunts that put him in the weeds...

Meeting the Club Clampett and Club Crawdad reginal directors of Club Cranky...



Racer Al



David Gagnard cooking Loosyanna duck

With all the booze those boys brought....I was lucky to make it out of there alive!



If ya can't drive a good distance for special events...then you just don't meet new friends...it's about the people and the cars!!!!!

[Jamo]

You REALly do have no idea of what you are talking about, do you?

LMFAO

[acindrich]

Man you guys are brutal. But, that was kind of bone-headed. Besides, maybe Pittsburgh is in the middle of the country in like Metric or something.

[John McMahon]

These threads REALly bring a smile to my face. Thanks!

[REAL 1]

Nope. I didn't research it. Don't have the time or sufficient interest. I was basing it on my recollection of recent years. I should have refined my statement however since my point is that rarely has SAAC had its convention on the east coast in more recent years.

Thanks for posting the list though. You made my point for me.

Looking at your list it is clear that out of the last 8 years the SAAC convention has found its way to the East Coast only once and I don't consider VIR or Beaverun the east coast. Its at least an 8 hour drive with a trailer to each of those sites.

Although I'm not sure, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of members are on both coasts. Don't care enough to research that either.

Have a nice day.