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0-60 in 4 seconds. Say goodbye to the good 'ol days...
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How much does it cost?
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$80,000.00
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Wow. I can't say anything bad about the performance { 0- 60 in 4 seconds is impressive for any car } . I wonder if you would need someone to make vroom vroom sounds when you would drive it?:D
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Crank up the jams! :)
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Sign me up!! Oh wait, 80g's, that's too much for me.
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Is that price of $80,000 accurate or just a guess? A similar sized Lotus is about $40-50,000
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Jack......might be a challenge to register in CT as it might be designated as a " Composite ". ( smile ), along with no revenue for emissions testing:
0 to 60 in 4 seconds, some comparisons from Road & Track : Ferrari F430 F1 ( $202,353 ) 3.8 Lamborghini Gallardo ( $201,100 ) 3.9 Porsche 911 Turbo ( $ 125,535 ) 3.9 Corvette Z06 ( $ 65,690 ) 4.1 Viper SRT10 ( $ 85,745 ) 4.2 Ford GT ( $ 153,345 ) 3.8 ____ |
Today's Wall Street Journal (7/27/06), section D1 has an article on these new electric cars. They quote a price range of somewhere from $85,000 to $110,000 for the Tesla. I wouldn't mind doing my part for the environment, but man that's way too much money for me and probably the everyday driver.
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1 cent a mile? And pigs fly! When you figure in the 80K plus price tag ALONE the cost per mile will be staggering. By the way, RANGE before needing a full charge has go to be tied to 'performance'. I don't think you can have both at reasonable levels.
It's not performance that will sell electric cars, all though that will help, it's basic COST. IF I were to buy one my reasoning would be based on extreme low operating costs (fule mileage if you would). Thus I would be comparing the 'value' to Econo Box type cars, not SUV's or high performance vehicles. And what happens when those batteries need replacing? Thats gonna be a HUGE expense and will have a dramatic impact on 're-sale' value. Not quite ready for prime time these electric cars, perhaps down the road... :D |
I think the point here is that this is THE turning point. Performance use to be the real issue--and battery size. Now those two problems are effectively dealt with in this vehicle. 250 miles on a charge is pretty good range for a commuter car, wouldn't you say?
Now that the technology is clearly available, the price can only drop. |
"THE" turning point? :LOL: well I don't think so, but I hear you. Yeah, 250 miles is respectable range. Pretty small car though...
It appears that current move is toward 'hybrids', gas plus electric motor power. The electric motor is used to increase accelleration\performance from the small gasoline engine. |
Link to the 7/27 WSJ article mentioned by Slojo:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/...450617046.html |
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Laptop batteries...I know a bit about them... good for 2 or three years, then they must be replaced. The Tesla has...what? ...6000 of them? :rolleyes: |
Electric cars are nothing new, they've been around since the early 1900's. (Un) Fortunately even GM can't make them work. It was rumored they lost $25-30k on every single EV-1 it built. They didn't even have the confidence to sell the stupid things... Every one was leased and presently none are on the road. We still have electric car charging stations at the city hall in my town that are NEVER used.
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Fuel cells may be the answer, but they to are fraught with 'infrastructure' problems.
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The cost to operate the gas cars include the Federal and State gasoline taxes. When and if electric cars increase in popularity , to maintain the roads and all the other government use of the gasoline tax, new taxes will more than likely be added to electric cars to offset the loss in gasoline tax revenue. Hence, the cost to operate will increase.
Agree with the comment on battery replacement. There will definitely be an influence on the value of a pre-owned electric cars if the batteries will need to be changed shortly after a purchase. For discuusion purposes, all other items being equal , there is not that much difference, if any, in the value of a gasoline car having 60,000 miles and one having 61,000 miles. If the battery had to be replaced at 61,000 miles and there is 60,000 miles on the electric vehicle, I would offer there will be a significant difference in value. |
The 0 - 60 time is impressive but I wonder what the rolling time is.
Say 50mph to 80mph. How about the passing acceleration? You only go 0-60mph once then you have to pass cars on the road. If my memories of electric remote control cars holds true - low speed acceleration would be incredible but acceleration at speed would be less dramatic. It mentions a 2 speed transmission maybe they have figured out a way to get the torque in the powerband at speed. Does the WSJ article mention anything about how it drives on the highway? |
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