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Old 06-03-2019, 10:36 AM
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I am looking for a shop that is not too far from Rochester NY to finish my AC Cobra. Basically the first part of the assembly manual will be done (chassis portion) thanks for any help
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:52 AM
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Have you thought about the crew at A&C finishing out the car?
I mean, it`s their kit.
And who knows their product better than the original manufacturer?

I`m not knowledgeable on the geography of New York but a google search showed about an hour and 15 min. drive (74 miles) from Rochester to Buffalo.
Your car sounds like it could at lest be pushed onto a trailer.

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Old 06-04-2019, 12:58 PM
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I tried to look around and find someone who could help you, but was not finding any shops that wanted to commit to a build project I did call a shop in Canandaigua that had a cobra replica on their website, they were not interested but there was a guy there who has built 4 cobras and he said that he might be willing to help you.

If you are interested, send me a private message and I will give you his name and phone number.

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"Eddy the B" has done A&C cars before: https://www.mapquest.com/us/new-york...more-279334428

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Kits of all kinds are based on the premise that your labor is free. I built a couple of Heathkit color TV sets way back when. Even if I took my labor from unpacking to sitting in front of the TV watching it (it had fabulous color becuase I dialed it in myself) at a rate of the 1970's minimum wage, I would still have been money ahead if I'd just gone to the local place and bought a TV set. You need to carefully weigh the expense of hiring someone to finish the kit who is certainly going to charge you an hourly labor rate far more than minimum wage. If he doesn't then he's not doing the work and is having some high school kid do it instead and the quality, even if he is supervising, will show it. You will be paying a premium price for a commodity build. It's the same logic that says those $100,000 frame off restorations of classic cars are always better bought finished than doing it yourself. You are highly likely to be money ahead in abandoning the kit and buying someone else's kit already finished (or stepping up to a higher grade product for the difference).

(I know that the experienced folks were already thinking this but I know what a horse looks like when I see one.)
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Kits of all kinds are based on the premise that your labor is free. I built a couple of Heathkit color TV sets way back when. Even if I took my labor from unpacking to sitting in front of the TV watching it (it had fabulous color becuase I dialed it in myself) at a rate of the 1970's minimum wage, I would still have been money ahead if I'd just gone to the local place and bought a TV set. You need to carefully weigh the expense of hiring someone to finish the kit who is certainly going to charge you an hourly labor rate far more than minimum wage. If he doesn't then he's not doing the work and is having some high school kid do it instead and the quality, even if he is supervising, will show it. You will be paying a premium price for a commodity build. It's the same logic that says those $100,000 frame off restorations of classic cars are always better bought finished than doing it yourself. You are highly likely to be money ahead in abandoning the kit and buying someone else's kit already finished (or stepping up to a higher grade product for the difference).

(I know that the experienced folks were already thinking this but I know what a horse looks like when I see one.)
I just got into an argument on a Facebook page about this very thing. 1967 GTO for $9500 that needed a trunk pan and floor pan, complete interior done along with the dash needing refinished, all new brakes and lines, didn't run with wrong engine, and paint, but looked in decent shape. I guesstimated $15k if you could do all the work yourself and at least 2-3 times that if you had to pay somebody. It was laughable reading all the people reply on how I was crazy it would cost that much. Newbies...I can buy a really nice 67 GTO with a 4 speed for $25-35k and drive it to a car show on the way home!
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Kits of all kinds are based on the premise that your labor is free. I built a couple of Heathkit color TV sets way back when. Even if I took my labor from unpacking to sitting in front of the TV watching it (it had fabulous color becuase I dialed it in myself) at a rate of the 1970's minimum wage, I would still have been money ahead if I'd just gone to the local place and bought a TV set. You need to carefully weigh the expense of hiring someone to finish the kit who is certainly going to charge you an hourly labor rate far more than minimum wage. If he doesn't then he's not doing the work and is having some high school kid do it instead and the quality, even if he is supervising, will show it. You will be paying a premium price for a commodity build. It's the same logic that says those $100,000 frame off restorations of classic cars are always better bought finished than doing it yourself. You are highly likely to be money ahead in abandoning the kit and buying someone else's kit already finished (or stepping up to a higher grade product for the difference).

(I know that the experienced folks were already thinking this but I know what a horse looks like when I see one.)
I was a high school kid once and a dam good mechanic. Just depends on witch high school mechanic.
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I did call ac auto, they said they don't finish them and he would call me back with some places . Thanks for the help guys.
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He stoped building Cobras a few yrs back. Tony(6104311159) has built around a dozen A&C’s....he is located in West Chester,Pa and has worked on my A&C ...
He also owns a A&C.
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Thanks Jon. I did talk to Eddie the b and he said he doesn't build them anymore correct. Going to check out a place in East Rochester sat if not I'll call Tony
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