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Old 08-09-2015, 09:07 PM
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Bernie Sanders for me Hillary,a distant second.
Doesn't Sanders say he's a socialist?
Why in America would you or I want a socialist to run our country.
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:28 PM
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I am pretty sure I am conservative. That said the last debate in my mind was so rigged in favor of Jeb Boy, Walker and Rubio (Kennedy). Soft ball questions to these guys and anti questions to Trump Boy and Cruz. The star in my mind was the the Early Lady and of course Carson. Wouldn't that be something to see. The Smart Business Lady and the Very Smart Surgeon. What a ticket.!!

Don't think we would see much change going forward with most Republicans but The Lady, the Surgeon and the Cruz would turn the car at least 90 maybe 180 degrees to the right which would be back to the center.

Clinton and OB should be in impeached. Just destroyed this country. Jeb is just more big government. More of the dam same.

Strong Military, must less race baiting and watch what everyone does not what they say. No on the Iranian deal but you know these weak pusses in both houses are going to pass it. They all need to go again!?������
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:43 AM
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Doesn't Sanders say he's a socialist?
Why in America would you or I want a socialist to run our country.
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The US is already a socialist country.

Socialism (n) – A political theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

"We also use things every day that are for public use. Things that, if certain corporate bullies had their way, would make for-profit. Basic things that we need to get around and survive. Things like roads, bridges, dams, traffic lights, and public emergency services. Not to forget public schools that educate our future generations, and hospitals that are always there when we need them most.

Socialism saved the country when faced with the Great Depression, but it was called the “New Deal,” because even then “Socialism” was a naughty word. How did Socialism save the nation? Through over 30,000 public works programs that were sponsored by the government. Not unlike when President Obama launched his stimulus package which jump started the economy again after Wall Street decided to play casino and flushed the nation’s economy down the toilet. A stimulus package that, to be honest, wasn’t big enough.

More Socialism? Social Security. You know, that thing Republicans want to privatize and hand over to Wall Street, because they’re so good with money (sarcasm). Social Security is solvent and paid for separately. It will be there for everyone when they become of eligible age, and will prevent the elderly who worked hard all their life from slipping through the cracks into poverty. Social Security would be solvent forever if we raised or eliminated the salary cap, which is currently very low to favor the wealthy who only pay a fraction of their income, as compared to middle and working class Americans who pay on all of their income.

Even Republicans have to admit they love the military, right? Of course they do! However, you know what the military is? The ultimate example of Socialism. EVERY aspect – from recruitment, to training, to deployment, to benefits, to home loans, to the VA is PAID FOR BY THE GOVERNMENT. Yep, that’s pretty darn socialist — and we like it that way. Imagine if we privatized our military? Yeah, don’t. It’d be ugly.

You know who else loves Socialism even though they’ll tell you they hate it? Corporations? They receive grants, tax credits, breaks, etc. etc. etc. all at the hands of tax payer dollars. They even rely on tax dollars to pay for Medicaid and Food Stamps when they don’t want to pay their employees enough to survive. They say they hate it, but they L-O-V-E it, very much.

Basically, Socialism for the rich is cool, as long as you don’t call it Socialism, but social programs for anyone else is obviously the devil’s work. So says Fox News, so it is written. Amen."

Addicting Info – Big Bad Socialism? The U.S. Is Already A Socialist Nation – And Conservatives Love It (VIDEO)

4:10 video: 5 Ways America Is Already Socialist https://www.facebook.com/ajplusengli...8700563604788/
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The US is already a socialist country.
Whoa, whoa cycleguy... There's no sense in bringing facts into DWRAT's misconception.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:07 AM
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The US is already a socialist country.

Socialism (n) – A political theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

"We also use things every day that are for public use. Things that, if certain corporate bullies had their way, would make for-profit. Basic things that we need to get around and survive. Things like roads, bridges, dams, traffic lights, and public emergency services. Not to forget public schools that educate our future generations, and hospitals that are always there when we need them most.

Socialism saved the country when faced with the Great Depression, but it was called the “New Deal,” because even then “Socialism” was a naughty word. How did Socialism save the nation? Through over 30,000 public works programs that were sponsored by the government. Not unlike when President Obama launched his stimulus package which jump started the economy again after Wall Street decided to play casino and flushed the nation’s economy down the toilet. A stimulus package that, to be honest, wasn’t big enough.

More Socialism? Social Security. You know, that thing Republicans want to privatize and hand over to Wall Street, because they’re so good with money (sarcasm). Social Security is solvent and paid for separately. It will be there for everyone when they become of eligible age, and will prevent the elderly who worked hard all their life from slipping through the cracks into poverty. Social Security would be solvent forever if we raised or eliminated the salary cap, which is currently very low to favor the wealthy who only pay a fraction of their income, as compared to middle and working class Americans who pay on all of their income.

Even Republicans have to admit they love the military, right? Of course they do! However, you know what the military is? The ultimate example of Socialism. EVERY aspect – from recruitment, to training, to deployment, to benefits, to home loans, to the VA is PAID FOR BY THE GOVERNMENT. Yep, that’s pretty darn socialist — and we like it that way. Imagine if we privatized our military? Yeah, don’t. It’d be ugly.

You know who else loves Socialism even though they’ll tell you they hate it? Corporations? They receive grants, tax credits, breaks, etc. etc. etc. all at the hands of tax payer dollars. They even rely on tax dollars to pay for Medicaid and Food Stamps when they don’t want to pay their employees enough to survive. They say they hate it, but they L-O-V-E it, very much.

Basically, Socialism for the rich is cool, as long as you don’t call it Socialism, but social programs for anyone else is obviously the devil’s work. So says Fox News, so it is written. Amen."

Addicting Info – Big Bad Socialism? The U.S. Is Already A Socialist Nation – And Conservatives Love It (VIDEO)

4:10 video: 5 Ways America Is Already Socialist https://www.facebook.com/ajplusengli...8700563604788/
Perhaps less time on facebook, more time with real books. Perhaps Economics 101 for a prudent start. Eh?
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Perhaps less time on facebook, more time with real books. Perhaps Economics 101 for a prudent start. Eh?
I took Economics - and scored well. I've also spent many years in the 'C' suite with an IBM subsidiary, so I've been around the block a few times.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I also spent 6 years on the Board of the local Chamber of Commerce.

Perhaps less ideology and more pragmatism, eh?
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I took Economics - and scored well. I've also spent many years in the 'C' suite with an IBM subsidiary, so I've been around the block a few times.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I also spent 6 years on the Board of the local Chamber of Commerce.

Perhaps less ideology and more pragmatism, eh?
Chamber of Commerce in SK ? That's kind of like the best hockey team in Bolivia......Eh?

P.S. As far as the happines scale stuff......you don't need to convince us here but you might want to try the 1/2 the population that lives in Quebec that's been trying to leave for the last 30 years.
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:06 PM
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Chamber of Commerce in SK ? That's kind of like the best hockey team in Bolivia......Eh?
You might want to check recent economic data before taking shots at Saskatchewan. We have a small population (~1.1 million) but here are some tidbits you may not know:
a) Saskatchewan is the world's leading supplier of potash and uranium. Other minerals include gold, coal, salt, silica sands, kaolin, sodium and potassium sulphate, as well as clays.
b) The discovery of the world's largest field of diamond-bearing kimberlite pipes has led to extensive exploration, drilling and discoveries for diamonds. The province also has endowments of copper, zinc, nickel, rare earth minerals and platinum group elements.
c) Lowest unemployment rate (5.2%) in Canada for 22 consecutive months.
d) #1 in Canada for oil and gas investment in the Fraser Institute’s 2014 Global Petroleum Survey.
e) Canada’s second-largest oil producer
f) third-largest natural gas producing province in Canada
g) world’s first and largest commercial-scale Carbon Capture and Storage installation (Boundary Dam Carbon Capture Project)
h) 100,000 (not a misprint) lakes for water sports and fishing
i) White-tailed deer: produce more huge bucks than any other jurisdiction, including the World Record White-Tail ("The Hanson Buck" - shot November 23, 1993, on a farm near Biggar, SK)
j) Big game: antelope, mule deer, elk, moose and black bear
k) Game birds: Abundant waterfowl, sharp-tailed grouse, pheasants, Hungarian partridge, and Ruffed grouse

Nasty winters but great summers. People are wonderful and very friendly, so it's a great place to live, work and raise a family, but also to visit - particularly for those who enjoy the great outdoors (in the summer!!).

Have a great day.
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Chamber of Commerce in SK ? That's kind of like the best hockey team in Bolivia......Eh?
I hear ice hockey in Bolivia is sorta like soccer in America, coming on strong.

'La Pista', the location where the ice rink is installed, in the Bolivian city of La Paz.

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