Club Cobra Keith Craft Motorsports  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > Arntz/Butler Forum

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
April 2026
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30    

Kirkham Motorsports

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 03:50 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Cobra Make, Engine: Butler, built in 80, driven consistently since '85
Posts: 5
Send a message via Yahoo to VC455
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lal Naja View Post
I've owned my Butler since 1987.

Your picture of the left front frame is where the stamped number should be.

If not numbered, it may have been one of the frames that Butler made for Arntz. I'm not sure anyone really knows the Arntz numbering system.

The body in the left wheel arch also looks a little different to my Butler with the horizontal cut out section. The indent behind the MGB lever Shock is much smaller than mine and the shock tower for tubular shock is also missing.

The rear of the frame that is scalloped where the Jaguar differential extends forward is also different with the two holes.

Arthur

lal Naja
Thanks for all the observations.
I'd like to find out where my car slots into the Arntz/Butler family tree.
Does anyone have any thoughts on where else to look for frame ID info??
I'd love to hear from anyone about any of my miscellaneous ramblings below ...

I've been driving the wheels off this car since 1985 and never really got around to the history. I stumbled on this site, and am fascinated by the group knowledge base.
Yeah, I have a ton of questions and can certainly take more pictures.

a) your comment about: The rear of the frame that is scalloped where the Jaguar differential extends forward is also different with the two holes.
What about those 2 holes, WHY??

b) what is the accepted practice for controlling the Jag hubs, forward and backward? My car HAD nothing, I made up a double spherical-joint 'trailing link' that picks up the bottom the Jag hub and goes forward @ ~45% to forward lateral frame rail...
Comments? I'll take photos.

c) yeah, you mentioned my lever action shocks in the front end, seems I also have a Dick Goldstrand A arm kit, ??

d) has Eplison F & R modular wheels.



BTW I have
1) a copy of the Butler 2 page wiring handout dated 5/82

AND an Original (not copy) of
2) COBRA ROADSTER PARTS CATALOG
1963 thru 1967
Models
dated NOVEMBER 1968 and stamped $5.00

3) While I was in CA, Mike McClusky of Torrance Ca did some work on my car.


Interesting memorabilia.
Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink