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Old 07-19-2011, 05:47 AM
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A good trick to attain a complete coverage is to have a 'spotter' with a bright lamp standing by. Get them to have a look around after each coat/pass... as well as having a "spray check sheet". Use 'paint' or something similar on your computer and print up a sheet with a checkerboard design ( squares about 10mm) Black and White checks and then stick it near where you are painting. As you put down a coat of paint do the same on the "spray check sheet". When the sheet is completely covered you have the same on the project.....Then, if there is one side of the panel that is poorly covered. You can blame the 'spotter' !
Thanks for the tip Rob. Thats a great idea with the checkered sheet. I dont have a spare 2pack mask for the spotter though.

A big part of the problem is getting into all the nooks and cranneys in the chassis. Going to use my smaller gun this time. Also the lighting wasnt good in the garage after making a booth out of plastic. I have a halogen spot light but it is really difficult to spray with it shining straight on becuase it kind of shines through the paint and you cant see the texture.

Its a beautiful colour i am spraying. It is a motor bike colour with a lot of pearl in it. The only problem is that the pearl plays tricks on you whilst spraying. When you look side on the coverage looks great, but when it gets to the angle where it flips you can see straight through it. Im sure it should have a ground coat but the shop says the formula doesnt list one.

It did 3 coats of blue on the weekend and im not happy with it so now i am rubbing back the clear and will spray another 4 coats of blue with a bit less thinner before shooting it over with clear again. I am going to spray it outside this time if we ever get good weather again. Not too worried about a few little spots of dirt when it is the chassis. I have a booth lined up to spray the body in.
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:52 AM
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Thanks for the tip Rob. Thats a great idea with the checkered sheet. I dont have a spare 2pack mask for the spotter though.

A big part of the problem is getting into all the nooks and cranneys in the chassis. Going to use my smaller gun this time. Also the lighting wasnt good in the garage after making a booth out of plastic. I have a halogen spot light but it is really difficult to spray with it shining straight on becuase it kind of shines through the paint and you cant see the texture.

Its a beautiful colour i am spraying. It is a motor bike colour with a lot of pearl in it. The only problem is that the pearl plays tricks on you whilst spraying. When you look side on the coverage looks great, but when it gets to the angle where it flips you can see straight through it. Im sure it should have a ground coat but the shop says the formula doesnt list one.

It did 3 coats of blue on the weekend and im not happy with it so now i am rubbing back the clear and will spray another 4 coats of blue with a bit less thinner before shooting it over with clear again. I am going to spray it outside this time if we ever get good weather again. Not too worried about a few little spots of dirt when it is the chassis. I have a booth lined up to spray the body in.
Believe it or not basic white does the same thing (light) it looks covered but can turn out very thin and transparent...hence the checker trick. I didn't realise you were painting the chassis. Good practice !
I reckon you should have put down a tinted primer to serve as a 'base coat'. When the 2-pack base colour dries flat you should be able to see thin parts.... (that's when the spotter comes in. Give him the mask and let him walk around with a bright light )you have a fair bit of time to apply more colour before you need to apply the clear....use slow thinners and hardeners. It's very hard to do it but don't rush the paint...I always get the need to "GET THE PAINT ON" take your time and relax. I painted some door hinges a day ago in very cold weather...about 19 degrees using heat lamps. The only downside I used standard hardener and before I finished the final coat of primer ( I always put too much on just to be safe ) the paint went hard in the gun. It takes longer to clean up than it does to paint the bit.
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Believe it or not basic white does the same thing (light) it looks covered but can turn out very thin and transparent...hence the checker trick. I didn't realise you were painting the chassis. Good practice !
I reckon you should have put down a tinted primer to serve as a 'base coat'. When the 2-pack base colour dries flat you should be able to see thin parts.... (that's when the spotter comes in. Give him the mask and let him walk around with a bright light )you have a fair bit of time to apply more colour before you need to apply the clear....use slow thinners and hardeners. It's very hard to do it but don't rush the paint...I always get the need to "GET THE PAINT ON" take your time and relax. I painted some door hinges a day ago in very cold weather...about 19 degrees using heat lamps. The only downside I used standard hardener and before I finished the final coat of primer ( I always put too much on just to be safe ) the paint went hard in the gun. It takes longer to clean up than it does to paint the bit.
Ive never had 2 pack go off in the gun before. You must have been taking your time. Dont get me wrong, this isnt the first time i have painted. I have done about 10 full resprays of cars and used candy's before, but this paint is just really transparent. I spoke to the paint shop about it and he said that if i use a ground coat it will change the appearance of the paint. I have sprayed it over grey primer on some parts and over silver on the chassis and it appears to look better over the silver. I just need to be patient and put down about 6 coats of blue pearl. Before i do the body i am going to spray some test panels with dark blue and black ground coats to see if it makes a difference.
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