hooning

[tomcat racing]

A lot of people have been saying lately, after the queensland election that the good old days are back.
Well they certainly are, back to queensland being a police state.
Can of do do newman and his cronies are introducing changes to the hooning laws.
Under the existing law if you were caught hooning [which could be breaking traction from the lights] youre car was confiscated for 48 hours.
The new law means you wont see your car for 3 months, for a first time offence, and if youre caught again anytime in the next 5 years, yes 5 years,
youre car will be CRUSHED.

Now i dont condone dangerous driving which endangers the publics lives, but drunk drivers and car thieves dont even get this sought of treatment.

So boys and girls, if you voted for this mob, and you or one of youre kids happen to get caught for a bit of spirited driving on a lonely country road, you got what you asked for.

What next, ill bet theres plenty more in the pipeline.

[ROBERT GWALTNEY]

Well then if you get caught hooning just act drunk..

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

Now i dont condone dangerous driving which endangers the publics lives, but drunk drivers and car thieves dont even get this sought of treatment.

Frankly, I didn't really blink at their introduction, and wasn't overly fussed, but when you put it that way... surly out of step with the rest of the judicial system.

I don't mind them crushing cars but I'd prefer it was for those who drive hopelessly slow in the overtaking lane.

PS: Hoon laws have been in Victoria since 2006 - Link makes for some interesting reading.
Victoria Police - Hoon laws

[Towmaster]

Now now Tomcat perhaps you should have researched a bit more before you Newman bagged.... Link to a newspaper clipping dated July 2011........
Anti-hoon laws get more bite

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by Towmaster

Now now Tomcat perhaps you should have researched a bit more before you Newman bagged.... Link to a newspaper clipping dated July 2011........
Anti-hoon laws get more bite

OK ash, thats a far cry from what is coming,
at the moment
first offence= 7 days confiscation
second offence= 28 days with police being able to apply to the courts for a 3 month confiscation [not guaranteed]
third offence= 28 days confiscation with police being able to apply to the courts for forfieture of the car to be resold.

new laws
first offence = 3 months confiscation
second offence= within 5 years, car automaticaly crushed

qld attorney general, 30 yr old, Jarrod BLEIJIE, DIRECT QUOTE, sat may 26/5/12
We dont tolerate hooning at all,at the moment if youre convicted its a 48hr confiscation
we are going to increase that to 3 months
if you do it again the GOVERNMENT will actually crush your car
it will be the toughest law in australia
if a young person sees their hotted up car being crushed, it wont take long for the message to get around on facebook. [quote]

Do you agree with that Ash, considering what the real crims get away with.

I would have thought that the existing tough laws were working quite well going by the statistics

Welcome to queensland and the good old days

[Gav]

We have the pollie's trying to adopt 30kmph speed zones at present, I know it is not the same thing that you are talking about here, but it is obvious the same dickheads are trying to implement them!

[renovationinnov]

same di** head in a different place

[Merv and Sharon]

"Can of do do Newman" - that's a new one for me. Seems pretty harsh and unnecessary when there are more important issues to police, such as the axle loads on semis. I see that they have applied for another increase. Now, that will do lots of good things to our already bad roads. I was talking to a road engineer the other day and he said many of our major highways are a jig-saw puzzle under the bitumen from the existing damage.

Who knows what increased loads would do. Still as long as they don't spin their tyres ...

[zoltrix77]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

A lot of people have been saying lately, after the queensland election that the good old days are back.
Well they certainly are, back to queensland being a police state.
Can of do do newman and his cronies are introducing changes to the hooning laws.
Under the existing law if you were caught hooning [which could be breaking traction from the lights] youre car was confiscated for 48 hours.
The new law means you wont see your car for 3 months, for a first time offence, and if youre caught again anytime in the next 5 years, yes 5 years,
youre car will be CRUSHED.

Now i dont condone dangerous driving which endangers the publics lives, but drunk drivers and car thieves dont even get this sought of treatment.

So boys and girls, if you voted for this mob, and you or one of youre kids happen to get caught for a bit of spirited driving on a lonely country road, you got what you asked for.

What next, ill bet theres plenty more in the pipeline.

Theyed rather crush a perfectly good car rather than sell it on and make money? Doesn't sounds like a government policy!

Seriously though, why is it so easy to punish road "hoons" but not Peadophiles? Sooner or later someone with the money will have to challange some of these laws, the punishment just seems so over the top and most frightening to me is that there is no judge or jury here for such a stiff penalty.

Again, not condoning dangerous driving, but it's sounding more and more like a police state (or should I say states).

Adam.

[lovehamr]

First they took your guns and cut/melted/crushed them and now they want to do the same with cool cars.

Damn, now I don't even want to visit Oz anymore. That's depressing.

[392cobra]

It's like they are falling back into a Third World Country.A better standard of living but about the same lack of freedoms.

[OZCOBRA]

Plenty of freedom under these laws if you ask me!
Do the right thing in the right places and you'll be sweet, be a screw up and you get what you deserve!!!!
Plenty of events all year run by our own Clubs and others at any number of venues and get rid of the need to be a screwup on the street!!

AS FOR THIS........"you or one of youre kids happen to get caught for a bit of spirited driving on a lonely country road".....YOU'LL BE DOING IT IN ONE OF THE AREAS WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE INVOLVING SINGLE VEHICLE FATALITIES!!!!

But to date the screwups don't learn and keep damaging and destroying life and property!!!!

And until you are PERSONALLY..... "TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL" ....you'll feel aggrieved by the laws imposed!!!!

[byroncobra]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Plenty of freedom under these laws if you ask me!
Do the right thing in the right places and you'll be sweet, be a screw up and you get what you deserve!!!!
Plenty of events all year run by our own Clubs and others at any number of venues and get rid of the need to be a screwup on the street!!

AS FOR THIS........"you or one of youre kids happen to get caught for a bit of spirited driving on a lonely country road".....YOU'LL BE DOING IT IN ONE OF THE AREAS WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE INVOLVING SINGLE VEHICLE FATALITIES!!!!

But to date the screwups don't learn and keep damaging and destroying life and property!!!!

And until you are PERSONALLY..... "TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL" ....you'll feel aggrieved by the laws imposed!!!!

I'm with you Oz

Living in a rural area with a nice stretch of hotmix out the front of my property, hardly a Fri or Saturday night passes without being woken by fcukwits doing donuts and burnouts...........bring on the crushing, it'll save me
shotgun shells

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Plenty of freedom under these laws if you ask me!
Do the right thing in the right places and you'll be sweet, be a screw up and you get what you deserve!!!!
Plenty of events all year run by our own Clubs and others at any number of venues and get rid of the need to be a screwup on the street!!

AS FOR THIS........"you or one of youre kids happen to get caught for a bit of spirited driving on a lonely country road".....YOU'LL BE DOING IT IN ONE OF THE AREAS WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE INVOLVING SINGLE VEHICLE FATALITIES!!!!

But to date the screwups don't learn and keep damaging and destroying life and property!!!!

And until you are PERSONALLY..... "TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL" ....you'll feel aggrieved by the laws imposed!!!!

The point about the lonely country road is youre not endangering anyone else but yourself and your vehicle. You take the risk.

Im not condoning hooning, im talking about a new harsh law here, when there is already strong laws in place.

Dont tell me, with all your high performance cars, that you have NEVER got a bit excited with your right foot on a public road somewhere, sometime in your driving history.

The new laws wont bother you, you dont live in queensland.

My family has been'' TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL'' my brother in law was killed by a drunk driver, on a valentines day, so dont try and pull that one on

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

The point about the lonely country road is youre not endangering anyone else but yourself and your vehicle. You take the risk.

Im not condoning hooning, im talking about a new harsh law here, when there is already strong laws in place.

Dont tell me, with all your high performance cars, that you have NEVER got a bit excited with your right foot on a public road somewhere, sometime in your driving history.

The new laws wont bother you, you dont live in queensland.

My family has been'' TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL'' my brother in law was killed by a drunk driver, on a valentines day, so dont try and pull that one on

You ARE condoning the country hoon as long as you and your son don't get caught.!!!!!!

YES..sure I've got a little excited over the years but I've also learnt and changed my driving as well in line with the laws in our NANNY STATE!!!...1 fine in 26 yrs and that was for 4 k over going past a speed camera!!!
These laws are being applied because Mr 200SX or Mr VL Turbo continue to flaunt the laws regardless of the police presence and the regular fatalities caused by them and others!!

Your correct your new laws won't bother me ,yeah they're harsh but the 99.9% MAJORITY of drivers won't ever be concerned about its harshness they in fact will support it...and they won't bother you if you don't f@ck up!!!

As for the "TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL" card ,I'll play that card every time to get the point across......I'll trump you I lost a BROTHER to a f@rked up drunk who T-BONED his car speeding through and running a red light!!

[Dimis]

My issue is not with the condoning of public indecency but the severe punishment when compared to the some alternative forms of indecency.

I dare say more innocent are killed, property damaged etc... by drunk drivers than those irritatingly squeaking their wheels in at a traffic light.

I feel it more inconsiderate and dangerous to my fellow man to operate a vehicle while even slightly intoxicated than to spin the wheels at the traffic lights for instance, even if out the front of my joint in the dead of the night.

Surly, crushing of cars should apply to anyone drink driving or drug driving way ahead of anyone spinning their wheels.

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

You ARE condoning the country hoon as long as you and your son don't get caught.!!!!!!

YES..sure I've got a little excited over the years but I've also learnt and changed my driving as well in line with the laws in our NANNY STATE!!!...1 fine in 26 yrs and that was for 4 k over going past a speed camera!!!
These laws are being applied because Mr 200SX or Mr VL Turbo continue to flaunt the laws regardless of the police presence and the regular fatalities caused by them and others!!

Your correct your new laws won't bother me ,yeah they're harsh but the 99.9% MAJORITY of drivers won't ever be concerned about its harshness they in fact will support it...and they won't bother you if you don't f@ck up!!!

As for the "TOUCHED BY THE ROAD TOLL" card ,I'll play that card every time to get the point across......I'll trump you I lost a BROTHER to a f@rked up drunk who T-BONED his car speeding through and running a red light!!

OK, you win you trumped me, your brothers death was FAR MORE SERIOUS than my wifes loss, you win.

You just dont get the discussion mate, other people on here seem to.
Dimis got it

Anyone my age who followed politics and grew up in qld under the bjelkje peterson regime will know what im on about.

You obviously didnt.

[sambo]

It was never legal to lay rubber at the lights. I was fined about 10 years ago for "sustained loss of traction" or something similar. So they're not taking away "freedoms", they're grabbing popular votes by raising the profile of existing traffic violations - and enforcing the law much more heavily than they have before. Same "crime", harsher penalty, better approval ratings for our elected leaders.

Hoon laws were created in Victoria after a spate of deaths resulting from street racing and people doing burnouts etc in heavily build up areas, usually in large convoys on Friday and Saturday nights. Handheld videos made it onto youtube, which provoked the authorities and they reacted. Has something like this happened in QLD?

It might be worth reading the fine print on your motor insurance too. I think some of them now have exclusions if damage results from hooning activity.

I agree that crushing a car would be pretty devastating. Pretty effective policy in that regard. It's a bit like playing chess, really... you get a warning that your king is about to be captured, and if you're not smart enough to avoid it, "checkmate".

I still love a good burnout though (Gary Myers skidpan variety)

[OZCOBRA]

The number of impounded cars at the Vic Pol storage area is staggering even more so is the $$$$$$$ they are generating through the impounding storage fee.... which has now increased substantially due to the 3 month Impound!!!

[Cashburn]