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mantis-bec,
Check with an engineer before selecting your motor. This is important as you don't want to shell out a lot of bucks for an engine only to find when you try to register the car it won't meet the emissions regs. People on here will have a lot of opinions on what is the right and wrong motor. The right motor is the one that fits your budget and makes you happy whilst at the same time gets the car through rego. That's all that matters. Cheers |
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Replica's come in all shapes, sizes and quailties. Just remember, your car (albeit a very nice one) is no more a real Shelby Cobra than mine is... From outside the vehicle, how can you tell what motor it has??? I will make this very easy on my car, my number plates will be "LS1 COBRA". I will probably have stickers promoting my business too, "LS1TUNE.... Tuning GM's finest". :D A post like yours makes me want to get, "NOT FORD" number plates.... :rolleyes: |
Warming the blood
What ever the engine it is always a good conversation.
I like Fords for what reason I do not know, I suppose to join in on the fun it is better to play the game instead of watching it. I in team ford and ready to play. I also love the converstaion about authentic/ hotrodded Cobra Replicas, always good fun. Rebel1, you will see the error in your ways. Phil |
Destroying the image of a real Cobra - Oh come on, what utter bullcrap!!!
Pray tell me how can the image of an original be destroyed by a kit car. The original is as it is - an original. A kit car is an individual made vehicle made from parts what the builder decides he wants (and that he can afford). Do we drive an AC Cobra - no, do we drive a Ford Cobra - no, we drive a kit car that looks like a Cobra. If I wanted my Cobra to be as an original I would buy an Original. At 10% of the cost I drive a car that to the majority is a Cobra. You need to remember that away from the Cobra Clubs the majority simply view the car as "bloody hell that looks good!!!!) I've seen Cobra (Kit Cars) in the UK that run 2L Ford Pinto Engines. Surely, by your way of thinking using this engine also destroys the image of the real Cobra as its a long way from being a V8 even though its a Ford. I for one (who does have a Ford V8 in mine) couldn't give a damn what engine goes under the bonnet (hood). Enjoy your car for what it is - a KIT CAR. |
I dont see how a Cobra shaped hot rod (that's what I'm building) could hurt the image of the original Cobra. If it wasn't for the replicas and the enthusiasts that play with them (regardless of power plant) then the Original Cobra would probably be just another obscure 60's sports car.
There are hundreds if not thousands of different sports cars and specials built in limited numbers from the 50's and 60's. The vast majority todays Joe public would have never seen let alone know what it is. The level of public awareness that we generate by building these cars is the reason why an original Cobra can now fetch $5M at a B&J Auction. Hot roders have done the same thing for the image of the 32 Ford. How many other body shapes from that period are as instantly recognisable as the 32? It's become an Icon. Cheers |
"Rebodied Crown"
Mantis,
In some states Crown chassied Cobras were considered "re-bodied vehicles" and only had to comply with emission levels of the year of the chassis or engine used, which ever the newer, so choice was fairly free. I don't believe Vic. was or is one of these, but I would certainly explore the option. So as you see in other posts on current allowable engines, you may not be able to use the XR8 even if you wanted. |
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At this stage I'm taking the easy route to registration. I've still got two full ford engines and spare 302 and 351 blocks sitting in my shed. And...they're gonna stay there....just in case. I figure that IF there is any relief or exemptions to register at some time in the future...then I've still got the engines and maybe can palm this chevy thingy off to some-one. Gawd, you have got cheeky since we invited you up. :LOL: :LOL: |
The Truth
Rebel1,
If I was building a new kit, I would put in the Chev, they are very well priced for the performance you get. They fit nice and they are light. To me a good choice. I suppose as we get older going fast is not a priority , so that is another plus for the Chev:D Cheeky |
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http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/Darth.JPG Cheers |
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And...what did you pull up here? 11.77 @ over 120mph? :eek: Looky here for an L71 in a holden ute: http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthre...&highlight=L76 I wonder what that would be for a lighter cobra. :LOL: :LOL: |
Same set-up in a Cobra would run around 10.8 @ high 120's mph.
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Me thinks my 295/15's are gonna have some problems :o :) :)
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So that's 0-200km/h in under 11 seconds. Jeepers.
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As Mike said check the ADR regulations in your state. Chances of being able to use a 5 litre motor are slim as they no longer meet emission standards (that's why Ford dont use them anymore).
I have the 5 litre Xr8 motor but if I was building again I would probably look at the LS1 or the Lexus V8. I suggest you also contact the kit manufactureur to see what they think would fit and check out what capacity motor the chasis is approved for. |
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Looks good,
What would the ute weigh??? Looks like a good effort, The car seams pretty well setup , slicks, diff ratio etc. If you guys were fish, you would be in the pan sizzling. I do enjoy the engine discussion. Phil |
Yep it does seem well set up uncle Phil..... for a street car. :)
You know the old saying " Nuffin worse than a reformed smoker or drinker" :JEKYLHYDE That's me. :LOL: :LOL: |
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But he sure can pedal that thing of his so we'll have to wait till next time. :LOL: :LOL: |
It's ALL in the set-up, (well most of it anyway). My Ute runs 11.82 @ 113 in unopened form, the motor hasn't been touched with the exception of new valve springs, (that's allowed in the "rules")... Race weight (incl. driver) would be around 1640 kgs for mine, and the ute in question would be well over 1700 kgs.....
Take 400 or 500 kgs off these weights and you'll be in Cobra territory. This is the sole reason I'm building one of these things!!! |
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