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would any one recomend putting an xr8 tickford motor into a cobra
Can anyone sujest what type of motor to put into my Modified crown chassis. Would it be easier to put a fuel injected motor in with all the polution gear, than trying to put a modified motor carberetor style. As we all know this is the first step into building the car around it would be great to hear some input. I personally would love to put a chev in it ( thats what i always work with ), But i have no choice, my wife and father both are ford people and say if you build a ford a ford motor must go in it.
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Just stick the Chev in it.... These are AC Cobra's, they weren't designed by Ford, they just happened to use a Ford motor! :p
So far, (touch wood) I haven't used one Ford part in my car. It has a custom made chassis, Jag running gear and fibreglass replica shell. :D :p |
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richsd - Wah Wah.... The image of the original Cobra... Blah Blah Blah.... Its just a friggin car. Many of us call them what they really are - kit car. This whole high and mighty "replica" nomenclature makes folks forget that most are made from available parts, not replicating the original. Where was that skin made? - oh yeah Poland, at the AC plant, yeah right. But, I do remember when CS went to the billet control arms like the K bros use - NOT. If the body ain't AC, why does the engine have to be Ford? If the suspension is bastardized and the brakes and the steering column, etc, etc, then why is the engine so sacred? I get tired of these type of posts, get over yerself.
Mantis, it is your car, do what ya like and have fun. |
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richsd,
I guess to many of us, a cobra is a car that looks like a cobra (BTW, an Ultima does not look like a Cobra). People ubiquitously can recognize a Cobra at 1/4 mile distance, but a side-oiler is just a powerplant, not the car. Most folks cannot recognize a correctly-equipped Cobra side-oiler from a schoolbus engine, so I wouldn't consider the engine to be, as you state, a key point that defines a Cobra. And, what is the "spirit" of the original? 2 seat roadster? Wind in yer hair? Too little weight and too much power, Fat tires that are still too small? smell of gas? Smell of burning rubber? Loud sidepipes? Freedom of the American sixties? Or must use Ford Engine? What is it people love about Cobras? Very few in the general public will tell you they love Cobras because they are Ford powered. Heck, Country Squire Wagons are Ford powered, but they do not have the Cobra "spirit", so the "spirit", by definition, must derive from something other than the powerplant. |
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Seems to me just happenstance that the engines were Ford in original Cobras. CS would have been just as happy and likely as successful to use any of the american V-8s... So I would modify your above statement: "This forum would not exist if Carroll Shelby did not stick a big Ford motor in an AC and I doubt anyone would be replicating the AC Ace." to read "This forum would not exist if Carroll Shelby did not stick a big american V-8 in an AC and I doubt anyone would be replicating the AC Ace." Reads the same, except does not require the "blue oval magic". Certainly nothing magic about a side-oiler...
But CS did use a side-oiler and certainly with no regrets. So be it, however misguided he may have been :D . However, if you are not using a side-oilerin your "replica", why would an incorrect Ford W engine be better than an incorrect chevy engine? Wrong is wrong, right? |
Personally I do not consider a Cobra to be a Ford, but that is just my opinion. I am happy to build a hot rod that just happens to use the Cobra body.
This has been debated a million times before guys, and I do not think common ground will ever be reached. Ben |
Here we go again! Yawwwnn!
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Nice Kirkham richsd , but some of us that dream of having something that looks like a cobra can't afford to nick off to Poland and by a COPY .
In Australia , unlike the USA have VERY strict emissions rules and every car built has to comply to EURO 3 emissions or else no driving on public roads. So fitting a bastardised chev or lexus into a kit cobra is the only way to get it done. And we all have to remember 95% of the cobras are KIT cars. Unless Carrolls company has built it , no matter how well they are built all the same ...........COPIES. There thats my 50 cents worth. |
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A Cobra is not a Ford as you say. It is a Shelby car with the body sourced from AC and it always had a Ford motor. This is a fact. Your opinion that a Cobra is not a Ford is correct but it is fact not opinion that Ford did not build the Cobra and it is fact that a Cobra used a Ford motor. Nothing to debate. If you want to build "a hot rod that just happens to use the Cobra body" then you get a hot rod with a Cobra body. |
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And yes, unless it was built by CS in the 60s then it is a copy although I am not sure what some are copying. |
mantis-bec,
Back to your question. Ford, Chev, Holden, Toyota, Rover, BMW, 8 cylinder, 6 cylinder and even four cylinder (in the UK), the choice is yours as long as it meets the ADR regulations for the state which it will be registered in. The line Quote:
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WKB is on the money.
The only right way to build the damn thang is the way you want to build it. Make a choice, do it, and be happy. Whatever species it turns out to be, you'll still be smiling like the Cheshire Cat every time you drive it:D Hogster |
Was there a Cobra or two made with a Hemi engine for drag racing?
I am not sure, but I think I read this somewhere. Ben |
Make it your own
Sitck your favourite CHV in it and put some Ford stickers on it and tell your wife and father its a Ford!! (Unless of course they could easily identify the difference). This way it will be an ORIGINAL car and not a COPY of anything at all!!
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From a dyed in the wool ford fella who has both 302W and 351W carby engines sitting in his shed.
Mr Shelby first approached Chev to use their motors but they knocked him back. If we were allowed to use the 289 or 427 in original carby form then many of us would use them. However.... Given that we can't the options are open. Frankly, I don't believe the current 4.6 or boss cammer engines have any more right to be in a cobra replica then say the Chev or Lexus. What have I decided to use....the 6Ltr chev. |
Guy, lets not forget that we ALL have a love for the same thing, cobras, no matter how original they are.
As long as you enjoy driving it who cares where or how they were built. Hey I love my girl friend ,does this mean she need to be a pure breed supermodel ? I think not. |
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