Club Cobra Gas-N Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > BackDraft Racing ---

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:17 PM
Gatorac's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
Posts: 658
Not Ranked     
Question Differential, rear suspension question ***BDR specific***

I have 181 up on the lift now and I have noticed something that seems odd. The trans output shaft is centered in the frame rails perfectly. The differential is not. It apears the entire rear suspension sub frame is offset to the right by 1/4" and turned slightly. This makes the driveshaft offset to the right by 3/4" It also makes the differential input at an angle on the horizontal axis.

I understand that the drive shaft shouldn't be straight from the trans to the diff in the vertical.

Anyone have any input on this? Is your BDR like this?
__________________
Jim Pomroy

Have Fun!

BDR #930
08 Corvette Coupe
92 Sunburst Yellow Miata
#81 Saturn V Miata Crapcan racer
Panoz GTRA #42
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 01:34 PM
Gatorac's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
Posts: 658
Not Ranked     
Default

Here's a pic for reference

Attached Images
 
__________________
Jim Pomroy

Have Fun!

BDR #930
08 Corvette Coupe
92 Sunburst Yellow Miata
#81 Saturn V Miata Crapcan racer
Panoz GTRA #42
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 02:11 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Normal. That's why it has u-joints. Otherwise you could run direct drive.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 02:48 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 3,077
Not Ranked     
Default

Looks like it has been torqued and schooled by a Roush!!!! Just joking as Cashburn said normal.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 05:17 PM
Gatorac's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
Posts: 658
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
Normal. That's why it has u-joints. Otherwise you could run direct drive.
It has U-joints for the up and down misalignment. Side to side is something different. You can't run direct drive just by being misaligned in one axis. This is not including the diff drive flange not being square. It would explain why my left half shaft has plenty of plunge and the right has none. It's tight. You can't move it back and forth at all. I've been chasing a major drive line vibration since the car was new. From 55-62 mph it shakes so bad from side to side that your teeth will chatter. At higher speeds you can feel the pulsing vibration that is indicative of a drive line issue. The thunder of a V8 tends to make it less of an issue at higher speeds.

My steering rack was off 3/4" from the factory. This was a known issue. I got tired of the 4 point turns in the parking lot. I made some custom brackets to relocate it to the correct position. I was just contemplating that maybe the misalignment was a little deeper then just the rack.
__________________
Jim Pomroy

Have Fun!

BDR #930
08 Corvette Coupe
92 Sunburst Yellow Miata
#81 Saturn V Miata Crapcan racer
Panoz GTRA #42
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 05:56 PM
IMLost's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #178 United Speed World Special
Posts: 166
Not Ranked     
Default

I didn't measure it but unfortunately I had to pull everything out today. I noticed that it was not completly straight. I think it was moved over a bit to get a little more room for the yoke.I don't know about the newer models (#178) but ours are about the same.
__________________
Doing and driving what other people dream about!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 06:13 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 3,077
Not Ranked     
Default

My spf driveshaft has the same orientation as the picture above. U-joints need misalignment or they will wear out. Obviously there are economies of scale. I have one of the few cobras in the world with no vibration at any speed or any road with bfg t/a's and my driveshaft is as above so I doubt that is you vibration issue.

I had a couple BDR's and I would feel a slight driveline vibration but it was very very little and never thought twice about it.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2010, 07:02 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,115
Not Ranked     
Default

How is up and down misalignment different than left to right when you are talking about a u-joint?
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-29-2010, 08:05 AM
Gatorac's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Bradenton Florida, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 930, 427 Windsor T56
Posts: 658
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
How is up and down misalignment different than left to right when you are talking about a u-joint?
It's normal, got it.
__________________
Jim Pomroy

Have Fun!

BDR #930
08 Corvette Coupe
92 Sunburst Yellow Miata
#81 Saturn V Miata Crapcan racer
Panoz GTRA #42
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2010, 07:50 PM
Hitch's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clayton, NC
Cobra Make, Engine: BackDraft Racing 351W bored and stroked to 427 hydraulic full roller
Posts: 54
Not Ranked     
Default

Yep normal, equal but opposite keeps the u-joints happy...

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2010, 10:10 AM
67JET's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Bend,WI, wi
Cobra Make, Engine: Holliday Motorsport/396 GM / 4 speed / Jag rearend
Posts: 272
Not Ranked     
Default

I don't have a BDR (wish i did) but just for referance my rearend looked alittle out of wack and i decided to pull some measurments. You should be able to measure from frame out to face of hub and then measure from corner to corner of car by using the ball joints up front and center line on the rear hub. Also measure front to back each side using the ball joints and center line of rear hub. When i did this it showed me that not only was my rear in one sided it was out of square too. So the next thing i did was to take the rear completely out and cut off the chunk mounts and shock mounts (jag rear) and clean up everything to install new mounts. My chunk is now centered in the car and square but the yoke is still to one side. Your trans centerline and rearend centerline should be parallel to each other no matter if the offset is up-down or side-side or even both. This keeps the angle at each end the same.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink