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[bobcowan]

Getting the engine in is a bit tricky. It's huge.

The kit car oil pan is a T design. The motor mounts are not the best design. They end up fitting between the oil pan sump and rail. You'll have to remove the oil pan to get the engine in.
https://www.cantonracingproducts.com...rear-sump-pan/

As said, the engine is really wide. You'll need to remove the valve covers to fit through the hood opening.

And the steering may interfere with the valve cover just a tad. You might need to clearance the left front corner just a smidgen.

The stock alternator is much too big to fit in the stock location; it hits the frame rail. You'll need to adapt an aftermarket racing 80A alternator. You'll have to custom fabricate a new mount, and add an additional idler pulley.
Mini Racing Alternator - Performance Distributors

If you don't ever plan on installing a blower, the Power by the Hour has a bracket set to move the alternator to the right side of the engine.
https://pbhperformance.com/product/s...a-5-0l-coyote/

If you're thinking about power steering, that can be a challenge as well because the Mustang uses electric steering. There are a couple of companies that make brackets for this. Most of the hydraulic pumps fit on the right front of the engine; the same place the PBTH alternator mount sits. Since you won't be installing AC, you could fabricate a mount there to install a KRC pump with remote reservoir. I'm seriously considering electric PS.

The aftermarket alternator works just fine. At idle with all the lights on, the alternator makes 28A (I measured it). The stock alternator is rated at 120A or so. But it has to run a LOT of electrical accessories on the Mustang.

Adapting the factory wiring harness is a nightmare. There are so many bundles of wires that you just don't know where to start. Power By the Hour can help with some harnesses. But it's not a simple Power and ground connection. You could buy the Control Pack from Ford For $2,000 and simply replace all the original wiring harnesses.

The factory computer is mounted to the right front corner of the Mustang engine bay. It doesn't really fit anywhere in the BDR. You'll need to open the harness and move the wires around to make it fit the way you want it to.

You can use the stock factory computer. There are ways to eliminate the PATS. And it can be tuned. Getting a custom tune on the dyno is a good idea if you've made significant changes - intake, cams, blower, etc. Otherwise, the stock tune will probably be just fine.

The tachometer only runs at half speed. Even after installing the adapter from AutoMeter, it still only runs at half speed. I plan to replace all of the gauges this winter or next. I'm not that concerned about it right now; I know how to read it.

If wired correctly, you can use the push button in the dash. It's nice, and kinda cool, but I don't see that as a big deal.

[coach36]

Originally Posted by bobcowan

Getting the engine in is a bit tricky. It's huge.

The kit car oil pan is a T design. The motor mounts are not the best design. They end up fitting between the oil pan sump and rail. You'll have to remove the oil pan to get the engine in...

@bobcowan Man, that is already a tonload of experience you share wit me here, so thanks for that.

So I found a place to get the full swap package and they will also delete pats (security system, etc). They said that i don't need the ford control pack, and since i let it come as a 'crank-a-pallet'... what can go wrong?!

So what option did you go with in regard alternator? The mini alternator? Is 80amp fair enough? is it plug n play? Dis you made your bracket/mount and where did you put that extra pulley?

I would definitely go with electric powersteering for numerous reasons. Do you already have an eye on a system which would work for us?

Another question i have
Could you use the Backdraft gas tank or did you go with a other option, and what's your solution in regard fuel pumps?

Thank you so much!

[jeffgrice]

Originally Posted by coach36

@bobcowan Man, that is already a tonload of experience you share wit me here, so thanks for that.

So I found a place to get the full swap package and they will also delete pats (security system, etc). They said that i don't need the ford control pack, and since i let it come as a 'crank-a-pallet'... what can go wrong?!

So what option did you go with in regard alternator? The mini alternator? Is 80amp fair enough? is it plug n play? Dis you made your bracket/mount and where did you put that extra pulley?

I would definitely go with electric powersteering for numerous reasons. Do you already have an eye on a system which would work for us?

Another question i have
Could you use the Backdraft gas tank or did you go with a other option, and what's your solution in regard fuel pumps?

Thank you so much!

Regarding your question on the using the BD gas tank it depends if you ordered the optional aluminum tank with topside fuel pump. If so that's the trick. If you accepted the stock plastic tank you'll need to R&R with an aluminum tank to support the FI system.

Jeff

[bobcowan]

Originally Posted by jeffgrice

Regarding your question on the using the BD gas tank it depends if you ordered the optional aluminum tank with topside fuel pump. If so that's the trick. If you accepted the stock plastic tank you'll need to R&R with an aluminum tank to support the FI system.

Jeff

I'm not sure that's true. You could be right, though. I saw a picture of a plastic tank on here recently. It seems it had the outline molded in to the top to match the Tanks pump. All you had to do was cut and drill as marked. Maybe that was only that tank, as it's the only one I've ever seen.

[coach36]

awesome, thx bobcowan.
yea, but let's do the cruise control later. I have more questions to you- if you don't mind of course...

[spdbrake]

Just an idea on the engine.

I came across a salvage Cobra today with a 5.4 S/C from what appears to be 2007+ GT500. Has a manual trans as well. Might be something to consider as it would have the harness, ecu, trans, throttle, accessories and also be a forged internals motor.
https://www.copart.com/lot/29351339


GT500 motor:
https://www.motorcarsofjackson.com/i...Jackson-MS.jpg

[FredG]

I see the reference to installing electric steering on several posts so I would like to share or you might say re-share this experience. I just removed an electric steering unit from my car that was installed by the previous owner. Why? I didn't like it because it wasn't meant for the car and was not securely enough mounted. Although it made steering much easier, it didn't feel right. If you choose to install one you need to keep this in mind. There is very little room under the dash. Not an impossible job but certainly a challenge. If you choose to install one, go a high performance route for one that belongs in a car like the cobra. I am expecting to see a move towards high performance electric racks in the future that eliminate the under dash unit. This is what the one under the dash looked like in my car. Monstrous plus there was a large controller box.

[bobcowan]

Originally Posted by spdbrake

Just an idea on the engine.

I came across a salvage Cobra today with a 5.4 S/C from what appears to be 2007+ GT500. Has a manual trans as well. Might be something to consider as it would have the harness, ecu, trans, throttle, accessories and also be a forged internals motor.

The 5.4 usually does not fit easily. The extra cubes come from a taller deck. Getting that to fit in the Cobra is not easy. Certainly not impossible, if you're willing to do some sheet metal work.