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Ongoing Coyote Problem
I'm at my wits end trying to resolve an issue that's been ongoing since last season. To start, I have a gen 1 motor with 3000 miles on it. I'm experiencing fluctuating hesitation upon hard throttle. It's not a linear hesitation. It's more like a sputtering hesitation. I also have sporadic pop coming from the exhaust at idle. Not a backfire but an intermittent spit/pop kind of sound. The exhaust isn't blowing any smoke. I also have knocking at lower RPM's under normal throttle. My gas is fresh with the correct grade. I changed the mass airflow sensor and no luck. I looked for vacuum leaks but I can't find one unless I overlooked something. I pulled the spark plugs and they look normal to me. My dealer was very gracious in giving guidance. I was told to data log my car using SCT Live Link. I have the Lund tune by the way. He was concerned about the following variable valve timing readings.
VVT exhaust bank 1: actual value -.12 min value-3.37 max value 31 Avg 7.0 VVT exhaust bank 2: actual value -.12 min value -1.4 max value 31 Avg 7.0 VVT intake bank 1: actual value 0.0 min value -47 max value 1.25 Avg -5.5 VVT intake bank 2: actual value .07 min value -47 max value 1.3 Avg -5.6 These numbers were logged going no more than 4500 RPM since the problem worried me. I backed off to prevent any possible damage. He claims the banks shouldn't read this far apart from each other. Should only be a percent or two.The knocking is also reading on the log results, but the engine is adjusting timing to compensate. The fuel trim numbers looked good since the engine wasn't calling for more fuel. We pretty much ruled out a clogged filter or pump issue. I don't understand why it's knocking in the first place. It's quite audible. I checked for any parts rattling against the engine to rule out false knocking. The only things I found were the chrome metal coil covers and hood prop rod. The covers did rattle so I put a small bead of RTV sealant under the corners and it stopped it. The prop rod was rattling against the metal oil fill cap. I wrapped some thin foam around it and it fixed it. I plugged an OBD reader into the port and got no fault codes. I'm not sure if my problem has something to do with an electrical issue. I hope this doesn't have to do with a VCT solenoid. I don't know how I'm going to get the valve covers off given the very little room between them and the fender well. Any guidance is much appreciated. Thanks. |
The VCT solenoids are a problem area.
They look to be very easy to change and are cheap$. I don't know if loosening your motor mounts and lifting the engine a bit will help your access issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwqJ_hdcSo |
I appreciate your guidance spdbrake but lifting a motor in a home garage type setting isn't possible. I want to rule out everything before I have to go that unfortunate route. The video was helpful though. Thanks.
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I would check for faulty grounds first, if they all pass, then check for faulty sensors. If they all pass then data log what your tune is commanding for VCT and what the engine is responding with for VCT. If they don't match, it's time to go back to the VCT solenoids. If they do match then the engine is poorly tuned and you need to properly tune it.
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Now I remember why I have a stinky ole carbureted engine.
I know, I know! Not being helpful! |
What sensors should I be focusing on? Wouldn't a faulty sensor throw a fault code which I am not seeing?
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If you are using one of Ford's ECUs they use the OBD2 fault codes which provide a fault code for just about anything. When you see your code, if you don't recognize it just google it and you will get the story.
If you use the data logging approach watch for a sensor that is not reporting data or reporting suspicious data. |
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I decided to tinker around more today. I pulled the PCV valve, vapor hose and the fitting at the intake that the hose clicks into. I noticed quite a bit of oil at the intake fitting. Unless this is normal, I'm concerned. The PCV valve clicks back and forth when I shake it. From past experience that would be normal operation? If something is wrong, please let me know how to proceed. Thanks.
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Forgot to mention something. I didn't realize there was a cavity at the front of the motor that gave access to the underside of the intake manifold. A rodent must have gotten in there to store some reserves for the winter. See photo. I snaked an inspection camera in there and discovered them. They could have been rattling against the knock sensors leading to unneeded timing adjustments by the PCM. I tied a small flexible hose to the camera arm, then to my shop vac, and surgically removed them. I should have gone to med school.
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Sounds like "a hunt and peck search routine" to me.
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The nut shells don't have enough mass to affect a knock sensor, and if they did the VCT won't split out on one bank. Would be Pi$$ poor design to have the engine have one bank producing more power and firing out of time. The PCV oil is pretty normal and can be eliminated by adding a catch can. Usually needed as rings have more blow-by via age or Super/Turbo charging. Several companies make kits. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkqdhEIb5QU |
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Be sure to check your OBD II error codes if any are present. They can save a lot of uninformed stumbling around looking for a problem. |
The oil is not enough to worry about and a catch can will only make the catch can manufacturer richer and add no value except give you one more thing to look at and fret about.
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Commanded is what the tune is calling for.
Reported is what the data log shows is actually happening. Finding a significant difference provides you fertile ground to dig around in. |
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So, have you verified that the injectors and the tune match? |
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accel pedal position relative engine coolant temp intake air temp knock sensor load maf frequency measured afr bank 1 measured afr bank 2 rpm short term fuel trim bank 1 short term fuel trim bank 2 spark advance spark advance V2 throttle angle actual torque source total misfires VVT exhaust bank 1 actual VVT exhaust bank 2 actual VVT intake bank 1 actual VVT intake bank 2 actual vehicle speed mph I don't have the scanner plugged in right now but I recall it had some sort of diagnostic/logging feature. Don't hold me to that. Will this read what the tune is calling for? |
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