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				11-26-2016, 09:33 PM
			
			
			
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 Amazing what you find when you know where to look...http://home.thegrid.net/~ffr4776/SB100_Registration.pdf "So, technically, if your car was built by a manufacturer (for instance, Shelby American, Inc. claims to be a licensed automobile manufacturer (Shelby Series One)) then you can't register it as a Specially Constructed Vehicle; and these cars should meet all of the criteria form the DOT for a brand new car (like SRS/air bags, 5 MPH bumpers, seat belts, anti-lock brakes, anti-intrusion beams, and - most importantly - they should have brand new engines with all the necessary smog and noise abatement equipment on them).
 You have to have built your car, or had it built for private use by someone other than a licensed manufacturer or remanufacturer."
 
This makes it sound as if turn key is ok as long as it's not a licensed automobile manufacturer?
 
EDIT:  The link above was from 2006 (kind of annoying that dates are not obvious on web pages, but a right-click and I was able see that it was created in March, 2006, back when SB100 numbers were hard to get).  The author apparently posted this update in 2014--not a lot has changed, other than acknowledging that the SB100 numbers are easier to get and that BAR no longer uses dynos.
http://bauerltd.com/the-magical-sb10...in-california/			 Last edited by ACHiPo; 11-27-2016 at 09:57 AM..
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				11-28-2016, 03:35 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ACHiPo  Amazing what you find when you know where to look...http://home.thegrid.net/~ffr4776/SB100_Registration.pdf "So, technically, if your car was built by a manufacturer (for instance, Shelby American, Inc. claims to be a licensed automobile manufacturer (Shelby Series One)) then you can't register it as a Specially Constructed Vehicle; and these cars should meet all of the criteria form the DOT for a brand new car (like SRS/air bags, 5 MPH bumpers, seat belts, anti-lock brakes, anti-intrusion beams, and - most importantly - they should have brand new engines with all the necessary smog and noise abatement equipment on them).
 You have to have built your car, or had it built for private use by someone other than a licensed manufacturer or remanufacturer."
 
This makes it sound as if turn key is ok as long as it's not a licensed automobile manufacturer?
 
EDIT:  The link above was from 2006 (kind of annoying that dates are not obvious on web pages, but a right-click and I was able see that it was created in March, 2006, back when SB100 numbers were hard to get).  The author apparently posted this update in 2014--not a lot has changed, other than acknowledging that the SB100 numbers are easier to get and that BAR no longer uses dynos.
The Magical SB100–Registering Your Car In California | Bauer Ltd |  Well after a couple days of wringing my hands and trying to figure out contingencies for having professionals build parts of my car in case that's verboten, I gave the Bureau of Automotive Repair a call.  After waiting on hold for about 30 minutes I talked a very nice Consumers Information Center (CIC) representative (the BAR hotline goes to the Consumers Information Center, where there is a BAR tech available to answer questions).  The CIC rep explained that there was only one tech on duty, but put me on hold and walked over to ask the Marvin the BAR tech the question.  He was back in a minute, and said, "I was pretty sure, but I wanted to check with Marvin to make absolutely positive:  anyone can build your kit as long as it's not a licensed car manufacturer" .			 Last edited by ACHiPo; 11-28-2016 at 03:38 PM..
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				11-28-2016, 03:54 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ACHiPo  Well after a couple days of wringing my hands and trying to figure out contingencies for having professionals build parts of my car in case that's verboten, I gave the Bureau of Automotive Repair a call.  After waiting on hold for about 30 minutes I talked a very nice Consumers Information Center (CIC) representative (the BAR hotline goes to the Consumers Information Center, where there is a BAR tech available to answer questions).  The CIC rep explained that there was only one tech on duty, but put me on hold and walked over to ask the Marvin the BAR tech the question.  He was back in a minute, and said, "I was pretty sure, but I wanted to check with Marvin to make absolutely positive:  anyone can build your kit as long as it's not a licensed car manufacturer". |  Almost correct. 
 
ERA, Kirkham, Shelby, Backdraft, etc., all licensed manufacturers, can (and do, except ERA, but you them pay extra to get it to a complete roller) all build your kit car to a complete roller status sans engine and transmission. But they cannot complete the roller to an operable running finished car. You or someone else you hire must install the engine and transmission. And it looks better, though not required, to purchase the engine and transmission from someone other than the install shop. BAR prefers to see lots of separate and distinct receipts.
 
For example, I bought my engine from Tom Lucas at FE Specialties, the transmission from the another company, specializing in Tremecs and the installation of the engine/trans was done by Hall Fab & Racing. But the "kit" was a complete roller from Kirkham.
			
			
			
			
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