Club Cobra

Club Cobra (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/)
-   Classic Roadsters II (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/classic-roadsters-ii/)
-   -   Straight steering column (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/classic-roadsters-ii/137794-straight-steering-column.html)

CR67rep 01-07-2017 04:10 PM

Straight steering column
 
Hello everyone, I've come to the point of upgrading from the Chevette column and I am looking at the IDIDIT 30'' universal floor mount straight steering column p/n 1010300010. Has anyone used this column? I tried a search and it seemed most used the tilt columns. I have no need for tilt, I barely fit under the wheel as is. I plan on mounting it with a universal swivel firewall mount and a drop mount from the cowl bar, but unsure of how much drop I will need to mirror the current position of the current column. I'm assuming the current shaft between the rack and column will be reused, possibly just changing the column to shaft U-joint? I'm also considering a quick release steering wheel hub if anyone has any cost-efficient yet safe recommendations. Thanks in advance!

rbgray1 01-09-2017 07:08 AM

CR67,

I used a Flaming river with tilt and no-key for my upgrade. It was a custom 32" length.

Not sure how the ididit 30" would work, maybe someone on the forum can help if they have used the Ididit column.

I went with FR because they are a 10 min drive from my Cleveland area home. Also, the column is FAR superior to the POS Chevette column.

Bill D 01-09-2017 08:25 PM

I have the Ididit 32" straight steering column, part number 1011320051. I ended up having to have it shortened to 30", so the 30" unit would be the way to go.

CR67rep 01-11-2017 06:10 PM

Thanks for the info Bill D. Did you change the steering shaft and joints between the column and the rack? If so do you happen to remember the length of the shaft?

Bill D 01-11-2017 08:35 PM

I bought a double D shaft, cut it to the needed length, and then sourced the needed joints to match the R&P and the steering shaft. My setup is not standard FFR, but changed by me.

rbgray1 01-12-2017 05:40 AM

CR 67,

I also am changing my universals and shaft. There is a small amount of slop in the universals just from 26 years and 28K miles. It's cheap insurance if you want it to steer right and don't want to do again.

Also, you will need to weld a new bracket to the cowl bar crossovers. I did mine out of 3/16 CRS and installed a 2 inch drop (from FR). Absolutely rock solid and far superior to the original CR single bolt crappy set-up.

CR67rep 01-13-2017 01:45 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm swapping to an ignition switch on the dash from a 65 mustang, does anyone know what size hole to drill for perfect fitment?

CR67rep 01-13-2017 04:17 PM

Disregard the above post.....just finished mounting the switch, just have to wire it when new column shows up

CR67rep 01-22-2017 06:51 AM

Received my new 30'' column from IDIDIT, and it appears to be substantially shorter than the Chevette column that came out. Does anyone here happen to have a SBC car and know if you can run a single steering shaft with 2 U-joints without clearance problems?

CR67rep 01-22-2017 06:53 AM

Also if anyone has the info on what color wires from the Chevette harness need to go to the 64-66 Mustang dash ignition? Thanks!

74proii 01-22-2017 11:28 PM

you are going to have to do wire for wire conversion from both wiring diagrams. If you can also look up the diagrams under the instructions if you want to go that way.

Wisconsin_Snake 01-24-2017 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR67rep (Post 1413756)
Received my new 30'' column from IDIDIT, and it appears to be substantially shorter than the Chevette column that came out. Does anyone here happen to have a SBC car and know if you can run a single steering shaft with 2 U-joints without clearance problems?

CR67Rep, you may have gotten some bad advice from Bill_D... If you look, his car is a FFR (Factory Five) and would be much different than a CR... %/

CR67rep 01-24-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Snake (Post 1413924)
CR67Rep, you may have gotten some bad advice from Bill_D... If you look, his car is a FFR (Factory Five) and would be much different than a CR... %/

Looking back through old posts, it looked like most everyone was using a 30". The longest universal shaft I have found is a 35" and even that is shorter than the original Chevette column. I'm not sure if people are running their shafts through their headers to connect to the rack and pinion or if most are using 2 shafts and 3 joints.... I guess worst case is I send this one back to Jegs and swap it out for a longer one.

rbgray1 01-25-2017 10:53 AM

CR67,

The Flaming River column I purchased is identical in length (32") to the original Chevette tilt column. It still uses the same length sector shaft as the original kit and routes outboard of the 351W sidepipes. I am still replacing the sector shaft with a new one from FR.

Wiring is straightforward and the same as factory GM to CR harness.

CR67rep 02-27-2017 09:01 PM

So I've been pretty busy working on other projects but I'm pushing on getting the wiring done on this mustang ignition switch. The GM plug(s) for he ignition has two wires that are 12V constant, the mustang switch only needs one 12v constant. Did those of you who did this swap just cap off the 2nd constant wire?

CR67rep 05-02-2017 06:03 PM

Does anyone have pictures of where they mounted their steering shaft support bearings/pillow blocks with a 3 u-joint set up? Got almost everything else done just need to get this steering system finished up and I'll be ready for final re-assembly

RedHawk 06-17-2017 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR67rep (Post 1421142)
Does anyone have pictures of where they mounted their steering shaft support bearings/pillow blocks with a 3 u-joint set up? Got almost everything else done just need to get this steering system finished up and I'll be ready for final re-assembly

Anyone? I am uograding too steering sucks!

CR67rep 06-21-2017 08:23 AM

Redhawk- I ended up managing to use only a 2 u-joint system. I got a Borgeson straight couple to go from 1'' DD to 3/4" DD and ran the 3/4 shaft out to about the same point as the Chevette column ended at and then made a lower shaft out of 2 u-joints that came out to be the same length as the original lower shaft. Haven't got to road test it yet because the rest of the car is ripped apart but it turns the wheels lock to lock perfectly in the garage.

rbgray1 06-21-2017 10:57 AM

Redhawk,

Exactly the same here. I went with a 32" unit from Flaming River (FR) and stuck with the 2 ujoint set up...No need for a pillow block support and the steering sector shaft stays completely outside my 351W headers.

rbgray1 06-21-2017 10:58 AM

Modifying the drop bracket behind the dash is more work but comes out far better than the factory crappy single bolt set-up.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: