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dlampe 03-19-2010 09:11 PM

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_090.jpg

Here is the last shot for tonight. The front brakes are massive. I really wanted some good brakes and Hurricane came through for me. I will give you guys the break down of the rears tomorrow.

LMH 03-19-2010 09:31 PM

Hey Dean, what size rotors are those?
Larry

mando s 03-20-2010 01:33 AM

I've never seen safety wire used on the rotors bolts. Is this normal and do most people do it?

Regards.

Maurice Butler 03-20-2010 03:04 AM

usual to run a single strand around as per bottom right
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...0/lockwire.gif

for good detail on lockwiring check out the amateur aircraft web sites
Note: the wire has to be tight between bolts or the bolts will loosen until the lockwire is tight, then the bolts won't be tight enough.

dlampe 03-20-2010 06:44 AM

Brent the rotors are the 12.19 rotors that a lot of us use on our cars. I don't think I could go any larger with 15 inch wheels.

I will also check the safety wire and tighten the loose wires. Thanks for the tips. We always use lock-tite on those bolts as well.

The rear brakes took a little more thought but with the help of some previous owners the problem was solved. It is tough to get a good emergency brake, Willwood calipers, big rotors all bolted to Ford IRS parts. Here is a picture of the parts.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_087.jpg

That bracket is the key to making this kit work properly.

gsharapa 03-20-2010 08:18 AM

Looking good....

dlampe 03-20-2010 08:44 AM

Yeah, I'm very excited to be back in a Hurricane. And this is turning out to be an awesome Hurricane. This has nothing to do with the brakes but I have to share some thoughts. Here are the headers and side pipes as they were mocked up.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...Header_001.jpg

They have had the mufflers cut out and a larger ID muffler installed. Many have done this before on the forum and it really opens up the flow. Here is the system when it came back from the coaters.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_119.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_129.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_128.jpg

I really was leaning to the black pipes. I wanted the ceramic coating for the thermal properties then I was going to paint the black. The traditional "Jet Hot" type coating has a more pearl look to the finish. This doesn't have that. I really like this finish. I don't think I have ever seen this finish before. I know it is probably hard to see what I'm talking about but I might leave them like this for a while. Any thoughts?

gsharapa 03-20-2010 09:03 AM

I actually like that finish. Sort of between the normal ceramic coating finish and chrome. I think that would awesome on a total black car. If you were considering black why wouldn't you just do the ceramic coating in black?

LMH 03-20-2010 09:27 AM

Hey Dean
Can't remember if I told you on our phone conversions but on your rear brakes, you may find you have to grind the top of the parking brake a little to make it fit the wheels. It's the same set up I have as you know. I have two sets of Trigo's and both scraped just slightly. After a little grinding and reshaping though, no problems.
Larry

dlampe 03-20-2010 09:28 AM

I have heard from some of the ceramic coating suppliers that the silver has better thermal properties than the black. That was what I was basing my decision on. Also, I wasn't 100% sure that I wanted black at the time I needed to make that decision. The last picture, up by the header flange is about the only place you can really see the finish with out the distortion from the flash on the camera. It really is much more reflective than the silver ceramic I have had on other cars.

Wbulk 03-20-2010 11:55 AM

So, everthing is fitting, you havn't had to take things back apart and send them back? And it came with with all the bolts? No back orders waiting for parts you paid for? This looks to easy.:rolleyes:

dlampe 03-20-2010 01:04 PM

I have built quite a few cars from entry level to top of the line, cobra to GT40 and every manufacturer has back orders and supply issues from time to time but the parts should all fit without modification. So far nothing is back ordered and it really has been this easy.

I have more pictures of the rear brakes assembled and mounted on the car. It will be down on its tires by Sunday night!


http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_094.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_091.jpg

gsharapa 03-21-2010 01:36 PM

Dean,

Keep looking at those beautiful "PIPES" and may have to switch to those......Looking good my friend!

dlampe 03-21-2010 03:44 PM

To finish up the rest of the system we had to chose the master cylinders. I have read on the Hurricane forum that some of the previous owners had trouble locking up the brakes. That shouldn't be the case even with the stock GM disk package included in the standard kit. I wanted to assume that the previous Hurricane company had put some thought into the system but just to be sure I decided to double check their work. Paul Proefrock sent me an Excel spreadsheet to determine the proper master cylinder given an optimize pedal pressure of 60 lbs. This took into account the pedal ratio, the rotor size, tire size, weight of the car, piston surface area front and back and the G force created given a maximum braking condition. There is probably more that went into the final answer but I don't remember. The formula gave us a master cylinder size closest to a .625 front and .750 rear with balance at the pedal set to neutral (50% front and rear). I think the original kits came with 1 inch masters. According to the spreadsheet we used, that would account for the tremendous effort needed to lock up the wheels. These new masters should provide more pedal travel and less effort needed to lock'em up! I have also installed a Willwood in line bias adjuster next to the drivers seat.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0018.jpg

MFE III 03-21-2010 04:55 PM

Those are some bad a$$ looking brakes!
Are those the new upgrade brake package from Hurricane?

dlampe 03-21-2010 05:13 PM

These are the type of pictures that put a smile on your face! The car is on the tires. Man those Goodyears look awesome!!

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0017.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0024.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0025.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0026.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0021.jpg

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/IMG_0022.jpg

dlampe 03-21-2010 08:46 PM

In That last picture you can see where the sway bar is going to be mounted in the front. I had to have the arms bent to fit the front suspension.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...M-2002_131.jpg

I will try to post more about the size and design of the sway bar system later this week.

Clois Harlan 03-22-2010 06:31 AM

Nice photos and description of your progress.

jwd 03-22-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wbulk (Post 1037217)
So, everthing is fitting, you havn't had to take things back apart and send them back? And it came with with all the bolts? No back orders waiting for parts you paid for? This looks to easy.:rolleyes:

With the exception of a few back-ordered parts that were delivered within a week, that's EXACTLY what you get when you buy a Hurricane.
Sorry if you had a different experience with your B&B.

Jim

jdean 03-22-2010 11:20 AM

Yes Dean, if you can just open boxes of parts and bolt them on that is way too easy.


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