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289FIA 06-29-2011 09:35 AM

Wheel opening contours / body prep question
 
I’m at the stage of the build I dread the most… bodywork. Heck, I can’t even use liquid paper without messing up! :CRY:

In the spirit of doing as much as I can myself (something about the journey vs the destination), I’ll get it done… with your help of course! ;)

Read the DanEC post regarding the topic (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-...body-prep.html) but I still have questions:

What does the ideal wheel opening lip look like on a FIA?

What is the best way to sculpt the fender lips? (Tape an outline, scribe into the fiberglass, ??)

What tools do you use to bring it to the right format? (Dremel, drill, cut off tool, reciprocating saw, router, or?)

From looking at completed FIAs, it seems like quite a bit of material is removed OR huge amounts of filler are added.

Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Al

Front
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._Flare_lip.JPG

Rear
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._Flare_lip.JPG

Lip thickness (3/8 inch)
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._thickness.JPG

mickmate 06-29-2011 11:30 AM

I just made up a fence for a dremel tool with a diamond cutoff wheel to cut the lip to length. I really like the Shelby lip as it's finished like a wired edge. I'm playing with some tool ideas to try and get that radius now. It I could get a radiused router bit that fits my die grinder I think that would do it.

PDUB 06-29-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1137606)
I really like the Shelby lip as it's finished like a wired edge. I'm playing with some tool ideas to try and get that radius now. It I could get a radiused router bit that fits my die grinder I think that would do it.

I've seen reference to the "wired edge" before. Could someone explain what exactly that is. I assume it is part of the aluminum manufacturing process... photos would help.




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mickmate 06-29-2011 08:20 PM

How bout a vid,YouTube - ‪Fabricating Fenders for a 1934 Lagonda Part II‬‏ note some simple little tools like a fork to put over the edge and form the radius bit by bit. I like those small torches that he uses too.

PDUB 06-29-2011 09:48 PM

OK, cool! I enjoyed that. Thanks Nick.

wolf k 06-30-2011 03:51 PM

Something you may want to check, my right rear wheel opening is 1/2" taller than the left, ride height is equal on both sides. Either the body is twisted in the rear or the openings are different. Wish I would have caught it when I was at your stage. Sounds like you may be meticulous, in which this would bother you as it does me.

289FIA 06-30-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1137606)
I just made up a fence for a dremel tool with a diamond cutoff wheel to cut the lip to length. I really like the Shelby lip as it's finished like a wired edge. I'm playing with some tool ideas to try and get that radius now. It I could get a radiused router bit that fits my die grinder I think that would do it.

mickmate, thanks for the reply. Great idea! What did you use as a fence? How did you guide the dremel?

Not sure my hand is steady enough. Thinking a thin/flexible body side molding (like a door edge molding) could act as a guide. Perhaps a mini router would offer easier maneuverability.

Those rolled edges sure are nice. I’m not that ambitious though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf k (Post 1137812)
Something you may want to check, my right rear wheel opening is 1/2" taller than the left, ride height is equal on both sides. Either the body is twisted in the rear or the openings are different. Wish I would have caught it when I was at your stage. Sounds like you may be meticulous, in which this would bother you as it does me.

Wolf… absolutely love your build pics. You are definitely the meticulous one… and that’s a great trait!

Thanks for the heads up. I bonded the body myself, so I hope I didn’t mess up. I’ll run a straight edge off the frame and measure the height. All my pre-drilled holes and panels lined up, so fingers are crossed that all is well. :confused:

mickmate 06-30-2011 07:12 PM

I didn't even take a picture of it, I'll get one. I welded some plate to a nut and a small piece off that. The two planes kept the circular cutter off the edge the same distance. Like a mini router as you'd suggested. I'm thinking next of a fence for the die grinder with a carbide burr and just keep it perpendicular to the edge while I run it around at different angles to cut the round profile of the edge. I could probably have done it by hand already instead of dinking around with tools.

289FIA 07-01-2011 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1137853)
... I could probably have done it by hand already instead of dinking around with tools.

Think you're right mickmate. I'll take your advice! :o

Looked for a mini router but they all seem too cumbersome for the task. I’ll put down a ¼ inch tape guide, switch to decaf and use the dremel or die grinder to bring it down to size.

Thanks
Al


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