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06-30-2010, 10:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Rod-How much abuse do you heap on your valvetrain with a juice roller? Besides sounds like Barry will produce something we'd all like to have. It's a 'someday' thing-I'd wait unless you're going racing.
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I have dreams.
But, for the time being, all my racing occurs in my mind when I go out to the garage on the weekend to lift off the car cover and gaze at my car for a few minutes.
While spending $40K on an all-aluminum SOHC engine is presently out of the budget, I don't mind spending a few hundred extra buckeroonies on better pieces here and/or there. Patrick's recent upgrade to a Romac balancer has me thinking too.
I can certainly wait. BTW, do the Sharp's require head work?
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07-01-2010, 07:52 PM
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Harland Sharp
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07-01-2010, 10:43 PM
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I went with Shelby shafts and rockers.adjustment on the rockers is much more accurate than the dove units that they replaced.A bit pricey at $1200 a set but I do not regret my purchase.They also seem to hold there adjustment longer.
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06-30-2010, 09:25 AM
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If and when the time comes and I need another set, I would either make lateral move or upgrade engine parts. At the time, I almost went with the T&D's, but the head work "scared me off."
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06-30-2010, 09:45 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
If and when the time comes and I need another set, I would either make lateral move or upgrade engine parts. At the time, I almost went with the T&D's, but the head work "scared me off."
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There is not a single reported failure of an Erson rocker on the FordFE forum.
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06-30-2010, 10:06 AM
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Maybe RobbMc will get his design back from Erson and start his own production??
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06-30-2010, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
There is not a single reported failure of an Erson rocker on the FordFE forum.
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What about my next FE build?
What do I use then? PRW? I would opt for T&D's, absent the Ersons from the market.
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06-30-2010, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
What about my next FE build?
What do I use then? PRW? I would opt for T&D's, absent the Ersons from the market.
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I would feel quite comfortable with these. In fact, they're probably better than our Ersons. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CSP-S4006NBK/
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06-30-2010, 10:35 AM
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We actually agree on something??
Let see if Barry weighs-in and gives an opinion on them. How 'bout you Brent?
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06-30-2010, 01:38 PM
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Found these on Jegs; H/S full roller design $713. No indication of what head they actually fit though.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Harland+Sharp/...006BK/10002/-1
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06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
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And Summit has them for a few buck less:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CSP-S4006BK/
Strange, Jegs has a description error. It lists them as 1.73 ratio (the stock non-adjustable ratio) when they're actually 1.76.
They don't list aftermarket head fitment but they will fit factory heads. You have to specify which 'rise' head to get the correct stands which are included in this kit.
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07-01-2010, 03:03 AM
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Knock,
How about if I got you a smokin deal on a new set of T&D's?
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07-01-2010, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
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Knock,
How about if I got you a smokin deal on a new set of T&D's?
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Brent, a very kind offer. I'm almost afraid to ask how much? If you like PM me a price and I'll sincerely consider it. But, the main reason I was considering purchasing a 2nd set of the Ersons is because they are being discontinued, they bolt-on, and having an extra set around the garage just in case sounded like an idea, maybe not a good idea, but an idea. 
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07-01-2010, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoTxButler
Brent, I am also afraid to ask, but since the heads are coming off...why don't you PM me with the price. I currently run DOVE stands and Shelby SS rockers. Don't need the T&D's, but would love to have them. I am guessing HI-RISERS don't present any necessary headwork that is different from MR heads.
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I smell a group discount. 
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07-01-2010, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
They don't list aftermarket head fitment but they will fit factory heads. You have to specify which 'rise' head to get the correct stands which are included in this kit.
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I have them on my MR heads (with the H/S stands).
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07-01-2010, 02:02 PM
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Quote:
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I have them on my MR heads (with the H/S stands).
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Yes I did too but with FPP stands and spacers and Dove HD shafts.
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07-01-2010, 03:41 AM
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That price is without end stands though.. You'll need to anty up another hundred and fifty bucks more to get them.
Personally I like(d) Erson's needle bearing vice bushing design. If you'll notice, Harland Sharp's "plus-up" design are needle bearing rockers too.
It looks like they've targeted the Eboks for them.
http://www.harlandsharp.com/fe_ford.htm
http://www.harlandsharp.com/ford_nb.htm
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07-01-2010, 04:21 AM
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I think the Sharp rockers are pretty good parts. The ones without end supports are not going to be "the ticket" though. They have been making FE rockers as long as anybody. As for opinions - I consider these to be equal to or a touch better than the Dove parts. The beauty of the Ersons was the bolt on and go package.
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07-01-2010, 12:34 PM
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If I can get 3 orders at once, I'll do a group buy since I know this is a pretty high dollar item. R/K and Russ, I'll knock another $25 off the price that I quoted you. If a third wheel wants in, PM me for a price.
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07-01-2010, 06:23 PM
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Knock,
If you told me that you have the Ebrocks, that's enough info.
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