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FUNFER2 08-28-2012 04:32 PM
Ford 427 Wedge Engine ?
 
I'm a old Chevy man, until building my Cobra. So, bare with me as this is a stupid question. :JEKYLHYDE

I just viewed a 1/16 scale replica of a Ford 427 Wedge Engine. Can you tell me more about this engine, years it was produced and what cars had it ?

SoTxButler 08-28-2012 05:22 PM
Go to Wikipedia and query "Ford FE engine" ....there is a whole story about the FE. Years it was built, etc,...lots of information...good place to start.

FUNFER2 08-28-2012 08:09 PM
So, is the "wedge" anything different than the typical FE ?

SoTxButler 08-28-2012 09:22 PM
Nope, all FE's are wedge until you get to the Ford SOHC "Cammer"....it has hemispherical combustion chambers vs all other FE "wedge heads"....low-rise, mid-rise, hi-rise and tunnel port.

FUNFER2 08-28-2012 09:31 PM
Great, thank you. I've haven't heard the FE's called wedges before.

blykins 08-29-2012 04:04 AM
Your Chebbie stuff was wedge too.....it's just a generic term for a conventional head layout.

DanEC 08-29-2012 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1207553)
I'm a old Chevy man, until building my Cobra. So, bare with me as this is a stupid question. :JEKYLHYDE

I just viewed a 1/16 scale replica of a Ford 427 Wedge Engine. Can you tell me more about this engine, years it was produced and what cars had it ?
If your a died in the wool Chevy guy wait until you get to assembling headers and ignition timing. My FE headers were built by a Chevy guy who stamps the primary pipes according to Chevy firing order - which of course bears no resemblance to Ford FE firing order. I missed the caution note on this and puzzled for hours trying to figure out which pipe fit on which exhaust port and how to get them to fit up with the collector. :confused:

Clois Harlan 08-29-2012 06:53 AM
Wedge was a common term back in the 60's and 70's. I think you will find the 427 and 428 engine worthy opponents to most comprable GM engines. There are just a few little tricks a good Ford machinist knows. George Anderson has a very good machinist in his shop that could answer most of your questions, and he is close to you. Also, Brent Lykins B2 Motorsports, or Keith Craft, or my guy here in Tulsa Stanley Morton, and probably one of the best is in Greenville, Illinois; Lumpy at Performance Motorsports.

Just in case you wanted to know.

Clois

FatBoy 08-29-2012 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1207678)
If your a died in the wool Chevy guy wait until you get to assembling headers and ignition timing. My FE headers were built by a Chevy guy who stamps the primary pipes according to Chevy firing order - which of course bears no resemblance to Ford FE firing order. I missed the caution note on this and puzzled for hours trying to figure out which pipe fit on which exhaust port and how to get them to fit up with the collector. :confused:
If I recall correctly, the firing order is actualy the same, it's the cylinder numbering that is different.

Paul

DanEC 08-29-2012 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1207714)
If I recall correctly, the firing order is actualy the same, it's the cylinder numbering that is different.

Paul
Your probably right on that - haven't checked. Just got to remember where to hook up the timing light now.

olddog 08-29-2012 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1207714)
If I recall correctly, the firing order is actualy the same, it's the cylinder numbering that is different.

Paul
That is fact.

olddog 08-29-2012 03:33 PM
As for what was called a wedge, I always thought that open chamber heads were not considered a wedge. For that matter, I would have said the 4 valve head designs, like the 4.6 modular, are not wedge engines. I thought that the head being flat over part of the piston, with the valves deeply recessed, with a ramp connecting the two areas was a wedge. In other words the ramp is the wedge. I don't have any recollection how I came to that opinion. I may have assumed it. Anyone know for a fact what the wedge refers to?

DAVID GAGNARD 08-29-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by olddog (Post 1207745)
As for what was called a wedge, I always thought that open chamber heads were not considered a wedge. For that matter, I would have said the 4 valve head designs, like the 4.6 modular, are not wedge engines. I thought that the head being flat over part of the piston, with the valves deeply recessed, with a ramp connecting the two areas was a wedge. In other words the ramp is the wedge. I don't have any recollection how I came to that opinion. I may have assumed it. Anyone know for a fact what the wedge refers to?
that is exactly how the term "wedge head" came about!!!!!!!!
You are right in your description,started back with the NASCAR boys to denote those engines from the "hemi" engines.....

david

patrickt 08-29-2012 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD (Post 1207773)
that is exactly how the term "wedge head" came about!!!!!!!!
When I think of a "wedge head".........

http://thecoloradoobserver.com/wp-co...cheesehead.jpg

FUNFER2 08-30-2012 05:24 AM
lol,... :LOL:

The FE wedge sure looks different than the Dodge wedge.

Well, I guess the Harley Davidson is also a,..... wedge ? **)

Danr55 08-30-2012 06:01 AM
Patrickt is confusing "wedge" and "cheese". I know I've done that also. I even had a Chevy Cheese motor once.

lvhdude 09-11-2012 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1207826)
lol,... :LOL:

The FE wedge sure looks different than the Dodge wedge.

Well, I guess the Harley Davidson is also a,..... wedge ? **)
I'm thinking the "shovelheads" are Hemi's

Varmit 09-12-2012 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Danr55 (Post 1207831)
Patrickt is confusing "wedge" and "cheese". I know I've done that also. I even had a Chevy Cheese motor once.
maybe a Mouse motor eh

olddog 09-14-2012 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lvhdude (Post 1210431)
I'm thinking the "shovelheads" are Hemi's
I'm 99.9% sure your right.


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