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c6rodder 02-21-2013 11:17 PM

427 Side oiler hydraulic lifters?
 
Just getting a 1965 side oiler. It has always had solid roller lifter cam. I want to install a hydraulic roller. I have heard that the side oilers are not drilled to allow sufficient oil flow to feed hydraulic lifters. Some say that later ones were drilled and early ones were not. I don't know where to look on the block or ?? to see if mine is drilled to allow hydraulics. HELP please

Clois Harlan 02-22-2013 06:36 AM

Why don't you want to run solid lifters. I have been using them for over ten years in my FE 427 and aside from an ocassional adjustment they have never caused me any problems. But, that being said I understand the desire for roller rockers.

cobrabritt83 02-22-2013 07:22 AM

i'll see if i can post a pic. of my 427 block, it is set up for hydraulic rollers.

c6rodder 02-22-2013 08:29 AM

Side oiler hydraulics
 
Greatly appreciated. Will look for your photo.

c6rodder 02-22-2013 08:35 AM

Side oiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clois Harlan (Post 1232215)
Why don't you want to run solid lifters. I have been using them for over ten years in my FE 427 and aside from an ocassional adjustment they have never caused me any problems. But, that being said I understand the desire for roller rockers.

It is not that I don't want to run solids but mine are roller solid lifters and many people seem to have trouble with the needle bearings in the roller failing and dropping all the debris into the engine with drastic results. I am looking into the new Isky roller lifter that uses a roller instead of needle bearing but don't know if they make them for FE's. If they don't I will be going to a hydraulic roller and less spring pressure. Other option is to convert to a standard solid lifter cam, as you are running but really like roller lifter cams because of their larger area under the curve for better performance on the street.

Clois Harlan 02-22-2013 09:23 AM

Understand.

601HP 02-22-2013 10:31 AM

c6rodder,
Crower makes this solid roller lifter EnduraMax Roller Lifters Ford 390-427 FE 63-UP for the FE. It doesn't use needle bearings.

I'm running the same lifter, but mine use needle bearings. In the future I'll probably remove my lifters and send them to Crower to be re-built with the NBO (needleless bearing option).

David

cobrabritt83 02-22-2013 12:37 PM

3 Attachment(s)
here some pics

FWB 02-22-2013 12:54 PM

the galleys appear to be there, if they are drilled you will have 3 plugs around the cam in the rear of the motor........

enjoy

cobrabritt83 02-22-2013 01:23 PM

Mine has three plugs on the rear of the block were the cam is

rpatton3 02-22-2013 02:23 PM

1968 was only year for factory hydraulic lifters. W code GT-E Cougars were only cars to get this engine. I think the service blocks have this, too. Check with Royce Peterson on Mercurycougar.net - The Front Page and he will astound you with all things FE.

mickmate 02-22-2013 02:41 PM

The three plugs on the back are the ticket to it being drilled for hydraulic. As Fred says it looks like they are all set. Your answers with pics are all here oil
You need a good book with some diagrams and oiling tricks for FE's. Check on Barry Robotniks or Steve Christs books on the subject.

c6rodder 02-22-2013 07:49 PM

side oiler hydraulic lifters
 
Thank you for all the suggestions and photos. I will purchase a book on the FE's to learn enough to not do something stupid.

Dwight 02-23-2013 12:40 AM

is this the plugs you are talking about?

Dwight
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...nwagon_15_.JPG

FWB 02-23-2013 07:33 AM

those are the plugs, but that isn't a 427 Dwight, at least not 65 or up........the color tells me might be early marine....maybe...

Dwight 02-23-2013 05:21 PM

it's a 428 out of a '67 "Q" code stationwagon. But it has the bosses for crossbolting and the heavy webbing. I have been told the reversed S on the back of the block is the rares of the 428 block.

Dwight

Dwight 02-25-2013 09:11 AM

note the cross bolt bosses

Dwight

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../DSCN31051.JPG

FWB 02-25-2013 09:29 AM

the "S" is unusual, usually an "A" in passenger cars, does it have a casting of C6ME-A?

the date code will tell more......

Dwight 02-25-2013 11:54 AM

date code
 
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/DSCN3136.JPG

Dwight 02-25-2013 12:16 PM

C6me
 
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...nwagon_42_.JPG


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