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ItBites 11-25-2013 12:58 PM
Break in oil?
 
All,

What is the current state of the art in lubrication for making a flat-tappet cam survive break in?

blykins 11-25-2013 01:23 PM
Brad Penn break-in oil.

ItBites 11-25-2013 02:01 PM
Brad Penn is not available locally. How about EOS or other additives?

blykins 11-25-2013 02:03 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't trust anything else. Summit and Amazon carry it, so you can always have a case air-lifted in....

Make sure the lifters rotate, put lots of gooey stuff on the lobes and lifter faces, have the timing set right, the carb set right, throw some Brad Penn in, watch your springs pressures, and let her rip.

I also like using Bullet flat tappet cams as they have more lobe taper.

FWB 11-25-2013 02:54 PM
we sell it by the case. it's 70.00 for a case of 12

email me your ship to info and i can quote the shipping

Fred

ItBites 11-25-2013 02:57 PM
Thanks to both respondents. Brent, really appreciate your recommendation. Thanks

Fordzilla 11-25-2013 04:11 PM
And for added protection, I add Lucas assembly lube with every oil change to make sure there is enough Zinc. Just pour it in with the motor warm. Has worked for me for years.

Mr Jody 11-26-2013 09:59 AM
Break-in Oil
 
I think last night’s episode of “Fast and Loud” provided pretty good evidence on the difference (importance) of using break-in oil vs. additives. In the first go round of starting up a Shelby GT 350 with a fresh build, they thought they would save a few dollars and just go the additive route. After the cam and a couple of lifters tried to devour each other, they went with “$70 a case” break-in oil the second time around…after having to pull and rebuild the engine. I know this isn’t meant to be a “how to” show (or even a “how not to show”), but I thought it was kind of nice to see them share the knowledge of their mistake and the difference in the two. Bottom line…break-in oil = cheap insurance.

lippy 11-26-2013 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jody (Post 1273486)
I think last night’s episode of “Fast and Loud” provided pretty good evidence on the difference (importance) of using break-in oil vs. additives. In the first go round of starting up a Shelby GT 350 with a fresh build, they thought they would save a few dollars and just go the additive route. After the cam and a couple of lifters tried to devour each other, they went with “$70 a case” break-in oil the second time around…after having to pull and rebuild the engine. I know this isn’t meant to be a “how to” show (or even a “how not to show”), but I thought it was kind of nice to see them share the knowledge of their mistake and the difference in the two. Bottom line…break-in oil = cheap insurance.
I love that show for the entertainment value. But did anyone else notice last night that not only did they use standard vs break-in oil, but it was O'Reilly brand oil. The cheapest crap they could find - on a car they expect to sell for >$50k.

Fordzilla 11-26-2013 01:50 PM
I have used Brad Penn in the past & am currently using Valvoline VR-1. I also use the Lucas additive I mentioned above. The cost of my motors more then warrants the extra protection. Why take a risk with cheap oil?

RET_COP 11-26-2013 01:52 PM
Brad Penn and Gibbs DRIVEN is the products I hear most from the racing guys.

Keithc8 11-27-2013 09:36 PM
We use Gibbs Driven and have for about 5 years now. Have not lost one flat tappet camshaft since we started using it. I do get a kick out of people making a big deal out of the cost of their oil that might get changed once a year on these kinds of cars. Spend big bucks on an engine and then not use a break in oil or proper oil after that.
Do not think you can just us a break-in oil and then go get the stuff made for a todays engines or you will lose a lobe after the fact. I have seen guys do that before. We ship the Gibbs stuff all over the country.

Good luck, Keith

Mohuska 11-27-2013 11:11 PM
Would a breaking oil be necessary for a hydraulic roller? Does the breaking oil get changed to a regular oil at some point or do you continue to use the breakin oil?

RET_COP 11-28-2013 05:09 AM
Some of you guys are forgetting that break in oil is also chemically formulated to help quickly break in rings and all metal surfaces that rub together.

Karl Bebout 11-28-2013 10:03 AM
Eric, pretty sure that B&B Machine on Broadway, in Mesa sells Brad Penn oil. Thinking that's what Mesa Mike used on his TR7 rebuild.


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