427-66 side oiler value

[Jebus005]

Guys, I purchased a Ford some time ago with a 427 side oiler / dual carb motor fitted, I had the engine professionally rebuilt (Over A$6k) including new pistons to run on pump fuel. The rebuilder dyno tested it giving 457 Ft-lbs at 3900 RPM and a max power of 425.6 hp at 5400 RPM. A colleague has offered to buy this motor from me however I am unsure of how much I should ask for it. P.S. the motor appears all original, c80e-6090-n heads with solid lifters, c5ae6300c steel crank, c2ae-6604-a oil pump, c8ae 8505 h water pump and a FoMoCo aluminum intake manifold stamped 5-7-43. The block doesn't have any cast numbers other than a26.

[patrickt]

Put it on Ebay with a high reserve and you paying the shipping. Tell your friend you'll sell it to him for ten percent off the highest bid and he, of course, picks it up from you. If the bidding gets too rich for him, and he reneges, you can remove your reserve and then sell it to the highest bidder.

[Bernica]

Any pics? Are you sure there is no casting number up above the oil filter adapter on the side of the block?

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Any pics? Are you sure there is no casting number up above the oil filter adapter on the side of the block?

Directly above the oil filter adaptor there is a casting number A26, on the rear bell housing it is cast 66-427,

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by Jebus005

Directly above the oil filter adaptor there is a casting number A26, on the rear bell housing it is cast 66-427,

Iam having some issues with attaching multiple photos.

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by Jebus005

Directly above the oil filter adaptor there is a casting number A26, on the rear bell housing it is cast 66-427,

The casting number above the oil filter

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by Jebus005

Directly above the oil filter adaptor there is a casting number A26, on the rear bell housing it is cast 66-427,

Another view

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Put it on Ebay with a high reserve and you paying the shipping. Tell your friend you'll sell it to him for ten percent off the highest bid and he, of course, picks it up from you. If the bidding gets too rich for him, and he reneges, you can remove your reserve and then sell it to the highest bidder.

This is one option, what would you suggest is a high reserve? PS that A26 number is below the oil filter adaptor, not above as I posted. Also I was surprised to see the hand stamping on the crank, the 5 and the last of ground and hand stamped.

[Bernica]

According to the reference materials I have at hand, the C80E-N heads were on 428 CJ and SCJ cars, '68-'70.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Jebus005

This is one option, what would you suggest is a high reserve?

Here's a 427 CO with a BIN price of $25k.
Ford 427 Engine Complete Galaxie Lightweight Fairlane Cobra | eBay

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Here's a 427 CO with a BIN price of $25k.
Ford 427 Engine Complete Galaxie Lightweight Fairlane Cobra | eBay

You get an offer for that, take it.

[Grubby]

I say it is a center oiler marine block. The side oiler passage is machined into for the motor mount. I don't think that is typical for the side oilers.

John

[wkooiman]

For what it's worth, c80e-6090-n, are 428 CJ heads, not 427. Still good heads, though.

[Bernica]

No ribs on the side of the block, so probably not a service block. Maybe a marine engine?
Also surprised about the ground numbers on the crank...

[Bernica]

Yup, that's what I'm thinking. Green paint on one pic might be a giveaway of an old marine motor. Now, next question would be is it a CW or CCW motor? OP said it came out of a car so I assume that part was sorted out.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Yup, that's what I'm thinking. Green paint on one pic might be a giveaway of an old marine motor. Now, next question would be is it a CW or CCW motor? OP said it came out of a car so I assume that part was sorted out.

I remember a kid back in high school. He had a Citroen, or something. Damned if one day he didn't start it up and the darn engine was running backwards. Yep, strange but true.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I remember a kid back in high school. He had a Citroen, or something. Damned if one day he didn't start it up and the darn engine was running backwards. Yep, strange but true.

Back in 1980 when I was working on a dam construction project in SE Kansas (pretty much small Townsville) and I bought a SAAB Turbo in Tulsa. Not many of those back-ward mounted engine jobbers in SE Kansas. First year I took it in for annual inspection to renew the license, I took it to a garage and was letting them look it over as I waited inside. A little while later the mechanic comes in with a puzzled look and says to me - One of the things I'm supposed to check off is the condition of the fan belts. But your car doesn't seem to have any and I can't figure out what's up with that. So I took him out and pointed to the back of the engine near the firewall - voila - fan belts. He was relieved.

Looks like a nice engine for a project - even if it did start life as a marine engine.

[55312]

If these are new pistons, has the block been bored or just cleaned up ? If it's been bored, how much ? .015 over is good .030 not so much. Does it have a rebuild left in it? That's a major selling point.

Tim

[Jebus005]

Originally Posted by 55312

If these are new pistons, has the block been bored or just cleaned up ? If it's been bored, how much ? .015 over is good .030 not so much. Does it have a rebuild left in it? That's a major selling point.

Tim

Thanks guys for all the comments, great info. I can see JE 314F pistons p/n 162116 have been installed, the web site shows this part number as (J34) 427 BBF inverted dome at 0.017 oversize. In the papers from the rebuilder it appears he did the recommended sonic test on all cylinders x 4 positions.

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Back in 1980 when I was working on a dam construction project in SE Kansas (pretty much small Townsville) and I bought a SAAB Turbo in Tulsa. Not many of those back-ward mounted engine jobbers in SE Kansas. First year I took it in for annual inspection to renew the license, I took it to a garage and was letting them look it over as I waited inside. A little while later the mechanic comes in with a puzzled look and says to me - One of the things I'm supposed to check off is the condition of the fan belts. But your car doesn't seem to have any and I can't figure out what's up with that. So I took him out and pointed to the back of the engine near the firewall - voila - fan belts. He was relieved.

Looks like a nice engine for a project - even if it did start life as a marine engine.

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