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Cobra_ZA 04-08-2024 07:06 AM
Oil pan opinions
 
The original oil pan I thought that would work is too deep at 8" that could potentially cause ground clearance issues and am consideringa 6" deep pan instead.

I saw some comments on Aviad, Canton and Moroso T pans but not so much on the Milodon unit. The specific model I'm referring to is 31650.

Thoughts will be appreciated.

eschaider 04-08-2024 09:56 AM
Buy the Aviad pan. They made the originals and know what fits and, even more importantly, works. This is what the correct pan looks like;

https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store.../155-55410.gif

Cobra_ZA 04-08-2024 12:32 PM
It looks proper and it was the original pan, right?

What is the additional tube for next to the dipstick tube?

I got an online quote and shipping is 1.5x the cost of the part. I've requested shipping details to see if I can a better cost on shipping, $1600 is not possible.

eschaider 04-08-2024 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523544)
It looks proper and it was the original pan, right?
Right.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523544)
What is the additional tube for next to the dipstick tube?
I am not sure. Aviad would know.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523544)
I got an online quote and shipping is 1.5x the cost of the part. I've requested shipping details to see if I can a better cost on shipping, $1600 is not possible.
Something sounds wrong. You can ship a shortblock for less. Call Aviad and find out what is going on.

cycleguy55 04-08-2024 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523544)
It looks proper and it was the original pan, right?

What is the additional tube for next to the dipstick tube?

I got an online quote and shipping is 1.5x the cost of the part. I've requested shipping details to see if I can a better cost on shipping, $1600 is not possible.
I don't know what Armando's Racing Oil Pans would charge to ship to South Africa, but he supposedly worked for Aviaid before setting up his own shop. He built my pan that follows the Aviaid design and I'm quite pleased with it. Please note Armando's pricing includes a pickup tube designed for that specific pan. He's a small shop, so shipping costs may be more reasonable.

https://aroilpans.com/408.html

E-Mail: aroilpans@aol.com | Office: 915-849-7622 | Cell: 323-422-0145

If that's not an option, check out the Canton 15-820 and the Milodon 31650 pans. They have kickouts like the Aviaid, but only at the front and not nearly as long as the Aviaid kickouts. As a result they're also only 7 quarts, while the Aviaid pan is 9 quarts. At 6" they're about the same depth. Summit Racing's shipping to SA appears to be much less than Aviaid's shipping charges.

Edit: Here are photos of my oil pan - for a Ford 460: https://goo.gl/photos/LV32eSaJ4uwCyRWY9

eschaider 04-08-2024 02:09 PM
Thanks, Bryan. I was attempting to remember Armando and drawing blanks.

To the OP, Armando makes an excellent pan also and it is quite similar to the Aviad, if I remember correctly.

Cobra_ZA 04-09-2024 10:21 AM
Thanks Brian,

The Armando pans are very nice.

Would 7qts be too little? I will have an oil cooler with remote filter. That will probably add another qt?

What is the driver to be sitting at 9 qts?

Does anyone have experience with the Milodon pan? The color may not be ideal, but we can fix that!

Thanks

Mark O'Neal 04-10-2024 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523544)
It looks proper and it was the original pan, right?

What is the additional tube for next to the dipstick tube?

I got an online quote and shipping is 1.5x the cost of the part. I've requested shipping details to see if I can a better cost on shipping, $1600 is not possible.
ParcelMonkey.com

Cobra_ZA 04-11-2024 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaider (Post 1523540)
Buy the Aviad pan. They made the originals and know what fits and, even more importantly, works. This is what the correct pan looks like;

https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store.../155-55410.gif
Would this pan fit a 4.25" stroke crankshaft? I asked Avaiad but no response.

Grubby 04-11-2024 12:40 PM
Yes. I have that pan on my 427 stroker FE.

John

xcop 04-11-2024 02:06 PM
why is the drain plug in the front of the pan?

cycleguy55 04-11-2024 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xcop (Post 1523598)
why is the drain plug in the front of the pan?
Because the pickup trap in the middle of the pan won't allow oil in the rear to drain forward, and vice versa. There should also be a drain plug in the rear of the pan on one side to drain the rear half. That's how the road racing pan for my 460 is built.

Hoodabest 04-12-2024 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaider (Post 1523550)
Thanks, Bryan. I was attempting to remember Armando and drawing blanks.

To the OP, Armando makes an excellent pan also and it is quite similar to the Aviad, if I remember correctly.
I got an Armando's oil pan for one of the 2 I'm still building the other is a Canton. They both appear to be well made, But the Armando's pan looks like the original right down to the details. Plus, with the pickup included it was still, at the time, a few dollars less. Handmade in Laredo, Texas.

eschaider 04-12-2024 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra_ZA (Post 1523595)
Would this pan fit a 4.25" stroke crankshaft? I asked Avaiad but no response.
Yes, it will.

1985 CCX 04-12-2024 12:40 PM
S/C cars used a stock Ford oil pan. No?

xcop 04-13-2024 10:26 AM
I have an aviad pan, and the only drain plug is on the front, which makes it a pia to change oil.

Cobra_ZA 04-15-2024 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1523611)
S/C cars used a stock Ford oil pan. No?
Is this a fact? Was the Aviaid pan a retrofit?

blykins 04-16-2024 04:06 AM
Anything with Aviaid's name on it is a pain in the butt.

If you want something that is "Cobra appearing", then try Armando.

An Aviaid pan doesn't even fit the box they ship them in. You spend hours trying to make the stuff work. Hate 'em.

cobrarkc 04-16-2024 04:32 PM
Aviaid pans are actually a little cheaper than Armando pans

https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store...ilpns_bbf.html

https://aroilpans.com/roadrace.html

Cobra_ZA 04-17-2024 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1523666)
Anything with Aviaid's name on it is a pain in the butt.

If you want something that is "Cobra appearing", then try Armando.

An Aviaid pan doesn't even fit the box they ship them in. You spend hours trying to make the stuff work. Hate 'em.
Any experience with the Milodon T pan Brent?


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