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12-14-2003, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Northern Virginia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley Daytona Coupe
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Can You ID this Block?
I took the attached photo of my block this weekend. I took another shot at the drivers side front of the block and it is "352" without question. I can't make sense out of the "Side", taken above the oil filter on hte drivers side, It looks like "?F27" which doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone out there tell me what this casting means? Is there any better place to look with the engine installed in the car?
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12-14-2003, 06:14 PM
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That's just the cast date of the block. You'll have to give more details....The casting number...i.e. C7ME-A....the bore size...any markings (looks like weld bead) on the bellhousing face of the block...etc.
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12-14-2003, 06:21 PM
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JCM,
You will need to look on the #1 cylinder (front, passenger side)just below the head for the relevent casting #, It will start with C, ,4,5,6 etc , then a couple more letters..
Its not hard to find , grab your flashlight..
Good luck, KK
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12-14-2003, 06:22 PM
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What cast date does this tell me? Supposedly, it is a 427 SO. I could use some more direction as to "bellhousing face of the block." Keep in mind that the engine is in the car. It is presently up high enough for me to easily get under it.
Thanks for your help.
John
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12-14-2003, 06:35 PM
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jcm,
If you are not sure if it is a side oiler, first check for "crossbolts...each side just above pan in the skirt of the block...if it is a side oiler you will see small hex plugs a couple inches above the crossbolts on the drivers side.....also look for hex head freeze plugs in the water jacket ....you can see all of these things with the engine in the car...
KK
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12-15-2003, 01:34 PM
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On the date code the first digit is the year. Second digit the month. The last two are the day of the month block was cast in. O F 27. Might be June 27th 1970? G. As KK advised look for the casting numbers above the date code. Also for the crossbolts and sideoiler galley with hex screws above the crossbolts on the left (driver) side.
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12-15-2003, 02:15 PM
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JCM,
Jack up the car, and take pictures of both sides of the block down to where it meets the oil pan. Post them here. This will help us a lot.
Steven
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01-01-2004, 08:31 PM
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C = Decade of 1960
8 = Year of the decade (8th year of 1960), 1968
O = Fairlane Car line / Manufacture code
E = Engine engineering department
9430 = Basic number for an exhaust manifold
N = Design change
Casting Number Breakdown Charts
Decade of Manufacture:
A = 1940
B = 1950
C = 1960
D = 1970
E = 1980
Year of Decade
The year of the decade is determined by adding a number (0-9) to the letter of
the decade. Example: C6 would be 1966, D0 would be 1970, D1 would be 1971.
Car Line/ Manufacture Codes
A = Galaxie
D = Falcon (60-69)
F = Outside USA, Trans Am racing
G = Comet / Montego
J = Industrial
M = Mercury
O = Fairlane / Torino
P = Autolite / Motorcraft
R = Rotunda
S = Thunderbird
T = Truck
V = Lincoln (61 - current)
Z = Mustang
Engineering Departments
A = Chassis
B = Body
E = Engine
F = Engine accessories
J = Autolite (67-72)
P = Automatic transmission
R = Manual transmission
W = Axle
X = Muscle parts program
Y = Lincoln / Mercury service parts
Z = Ford service parts
Basic Number
These identify the part, such as 6090 being a cylinder head or 9430 being an
exhaust manifold.
Design Change
A Basic part is made to fit many applications. Example:
DOZZ-7528-C is a clutch bar for a 390/428
DOZZ-7528-D is a clutch bar for a 351 W
DOZZ-7529-E is a clutch bar for a 302 Boss
Reading Casting Dates
Casting dates:
Casting dates show the exact day, month and year a certain part was made or
cast. The typical casting date looks like "6M08".
Breaking down a casting date:
6 = The year of the decade. "6" for 1976.
M = The letter of the month. (December)
08 = The day of the month. (8th)
First year month codes:
ABCDEFGHIJKLM
JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugN/ASepOctNovDec
Second year month codes:
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ
JanN/AFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
How do casting numbers appear?
Most casting numbers are stamped into the part itself, other have the number
molded on the part. Some casting numbers can be ink stamped while others are
printed on paper, which is then wraped around the part.
FE Casting Numbers
Blocks (C1AE8015C)
390 cid
C1AE-CC1AE-GC1AE-VC2AE-BC
C2AE-BEC2AE-BRC2AE-BSC2SE
C3SE-AC3AE-KYC3ME-BC3AE-AY
C4AE-DC4AE-FC5AE-AC5AE-B
C6MEC6ME-AC8AE-AC8AE-C
C8AE-ED3TE-1D3TE-ACD3TE-HA
D4TE-ACD7TE-BA
406 cid
C2AE-JC2AE-KC2AE-VC2AE-BD
C3AE-DC3AE-V
427 cid
C3AE-MC3AE-ABC3AE-ZC4AE
C4AE-AC5AE-AC5AE-EC5AE-D
C5AE-HC6AE-BC5JE-DC6JE-B
C6AE-CC6AE-DC7AE-AC7JE-A
C8AE-AC8AE-BC8AE-H
428 cid
C6AE-AC6AE-BC6AE-FC6ME
C6ME-AC7MEC7ME-AC8ME
Crankshafts
390 cid [3.78" stroke]
2UC3AE-DC4TE-6303-B
3UC3AE-EC4TZ-A
C1AEC3AE-UC4TZ-B
C1AE-AC3AZC6AE-A
C2AE-BC4AE-BC6TE-6303-C
C2AE-DC4AE-CC6TE-6303-E
C3AEC4AE-DD2TE-6303EA
C3AE-6303-EC4AE-A
C3AE-BC4AZ-A
C3AE-CC4AZ-J
406 cid [3.78" stroke]
2UC3AE-BC4AE-C
3UC3AE-CC4AE-D
C1AEC3AE-DC4AE-A
C1AE-AC3AE-EC4AZ-A
C2AE-BC3AE-UC4AZ-J
C2AE-DC3AZC4AZ-J
C3AEC4AE-BC4TZ-A
C3AE-6303-E C4TZ-B
410 cid [3.98" stroke]
1VAC8ME-AC9ZE-CIU
C6MEC9ZE-BC9ZE-DIUB
427 cid [3.78" stroke]
2UC3AE-BC4AE-C
3UC3AE-CC4AE-D
C1AEC3AE-DC4AE-A
C1AE-AC3AE-EC4AZ-A
C2AE-BC3AE-UC4AZ-J
C2AE-DC3AZC4AZ-J
C3AEC4AE-BC4TZ-A
C3AE-6303-E C4TZ-B
428 cid [3.98" stroke]
1VAC8ME-AC9ZE-CIUC2VE
C6MEC9ZE-BC9ZE-DIUBC6ME
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