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Jamo 07-24-2007 01:19 PM

Rob...I'm running (and have been since new in 2003) a Holly 850DP on the 482.

No problemos whatsoever, street or track.

rsimoes 07-24-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo
Rob...I'm running (and have been since new in 2003) a Holly 850DP on the 482.

No problemos whatsoever, street or track.


Can you cruise at 1500 RPM?

Chaplin 07-24-2007 02:38 PM

Rob-
The inability to cruise at 1500 rpm is more likely a function of your cam than your carb. I imagine your motor probably has a pretty big cam in it- in all likelihood it probably won't run smoothly until 2000 rpm or so regardless of what carb you have on the motor.

But that being said, a smaller carb will have better throttle response than a bigger carb. IMO, if you do a lot of street driving and are not worried about hp in the 6k rpm range, putting a 750 on is not a bad idea and will likely increase low rpm throttle response, but you will lost some top end hp. It is all a give and take.

Murphy 07-24-2007 03:15 PM

A sure fix
 
Put fuel injection on it and it will run like a top. 14-15 mpg and 900-1000 rpm idle. Never misses a beat.:)

xlr8or 07-24-2007 03:39 PM

If you are getting 14-15 mpg with that 482 FE you aren't sticking foot in it far enough.

Jamo 07-24-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsimoes
Can you cruise at 1500 RPM?

Barely...for the reasons Chappie states (da cam). Good throttle response though from about 18-19k, and no hiccups.

rsimoes 07-24-2007 07:13 PM

My throttle response is actually awesome. But, it's got lots of hick ups if just cruising below 2000, but at 2000 and up, smooth as glass. I guess it's the cam, but it does make 661 HP at 6000 and 670 ft-lbs at 4500, so I guess that's just what it is. And no, I don;t use the 661 HP, but I cruise a lot. hhhmmm.%/

Okay, so the only problem really is that stall issue under g's. I will play with the float level some more and see if it has any affect. The idle dropped to 500 today, so I will bump it back to 1000 and go from there.:JEKYLHYDE

Boy, I thought carbs were simple.:confused:

Jamo 07-24-2007 07:25 PM

Yup...I'd say you're ok given the big cam. Something else to consider...I'm running a WR toploader versus your five speed. Everything needs to work together...gearing, carb, cam, etc.

Center your efforts on the stalling. You've received good info/ideas from folks here. If I were you, take a carb guy out with you and try to recreate the stalling.

xlr8or 07-24-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsimoes
The idle dropped to 500 today, so I will bump it back to 1000 and go from there.:JEKYLHYDE

Did it do this on it's own?

That could be a clue.

RedCSX1 07-24-2007 11:23 PM

Yep!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaplin
Rob-
The inability to cruise at 1500 rpm is more likely a function of your cam than your carb. I imagine your motor probably has a pretty big cam in it- in all likelihood it probably won't run smoothly until 2000 rpm or so regardless of what carb you have on the motor.
But that being said, a smaller carb will have better throttle response than a bigger carb. IMO, if you do a lot of street driving and are not worried about hp in the 6k rpm range, putting a 750 on is not a bad idea and will likely increase low rpm throttle response, but you will lost some top end hp. It is all a give and take.


My motor now will idle no problem at 1000 rpm's and will not stall however it does not run smooth at under 2500 rpms. The reason is the cam. 630 lift.

rsimoes 07-25-2007 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8or
Did it do this on it's own?

That could be a clue.

Yep, it did. ..

WildBill3 07-25-2007 05:24 AM

do you have any room to ad an extention to your float overflow tube on your carb we did it to check fuel slosh,we race d on a highly banked track30degrees+100+mph and that pesky fuel was coming out and going back down the carb we lowerd our fuel below the glass and that fixed it. of corse it was just barely below but it made a diff.good luckWB

xlr8or 07-25-2007 09:04 AM

An inconsistant idle could be many things. I was having that problem and it turned out to be the distributor. The mechanical advance wasn't returning all the way on an intermittent basis so it would idle high until it sat for a bit then would start dropping as the timing returned to normal. Might want to check the timing on the car before and after going for a run as well as watching the advance with the timing light to see if it resets as the RPM drops. Might want to pull the cap and rotor to check the springs on the advance.

JBCOBRA 07-25-2007 03:08 PM

What do the plugs look like?

rsimoes 07-25-2007 05:53 PM

Since this is way more stuff than I know, I made an appointment with a local shop that will dyno tune the car this Friday. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Chaplin 07-25-2007 06:10 PM

Rob-
Just as an fyi. Unless they install the jet extensions and/or vent whistles on the carb, the dyno tune session will not cure your stalling problem on hard braking.

Jerry Clayton 07-25-2007 06:16 PM

You have a drivability problem--it will not be solved on the dyno--they will run it stationary from 4500-6500 rpm---you need to drive it from an idle to 2500

Jerry

rsimoes 07-25-2007 07:08 PM

I told the guy that the last thing I want is more power. I told him that I want drivability from idle to 4500 RPM and that the stalling needs to be addressed first. I think I have two separate issues. We'll see what happens. I apreciate all of the feedback.

Jamo 07-25-2007 09:49 PM

Rob...just remember: Whatever is broke can be fixed on these things.

WildBill3 07-26-2007 05:43 AM

ya no we had those floats with that were special made with the corners cut off, now they are very common ther black not metel, so when the fuel moves to the left or right it doesnt raise the level anyone else ever usedm??


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