Keith Craft Inc.- We service what we sell!!! Check out our Cobra engines!!! We build high performance racing engines and components for the fast pace strip racing industry as well as daily drivers who want to be FIRST!!!

FE Forums sponsored by Keith Craft Inc.


Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > FE TALK

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-30-2007, 02:00 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Tyler, TX U.S.A., TX
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA, Ford 428 SCJ
Posts: 332
Not Ranked     
Default

Here's a simple equation I use:

Horsepower = never enough
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-30-2007, 02:05 PM
Badsnake427's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster SC
Posts: 92
Not Ranked     
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Here's a simple equation I use:

Horsepower = never enough
I like your thinking!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-30-2007, 06:06 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Yorba Linda, ca
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 254
Not Ranked     
Default

Another factor is the manufacturer of the dyno. Dynos can be as much as 5% different from each other. Some dynos even have conversion tables to show what this particular manufacturer's HP would be using other dynos.

If you compare a "high rating" flywheel dyno to a "low rating" chassis dyno, the HP difference becomes greater between FWHP and RWHP. There are no standards for the regular guy. The manufacturers have their own standards.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-30-2007, 06:20 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Yorba Linda, ca
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 254
Not Ranked     
Default

Here's my numbers as example:

FWHP = 608
RWHP = 474 so I divide 474 by 608 = .779 (call it .78).

With this reasoning, I have a 22% loss from transmission, driveshaft, rear end, wheel inertia, water pump, alternator, power steering pump, air cleaner, ambient air temp. (chassis dynos are usually in air conditioned rooms), mufflers, pipes, etc.

I can now back into my post-NOS FWHP by dividing the new RWHP number by .78 to arrive at FWHP from RWHP:

575/.78 = 737 FWHP (I usually roudf up to 740 .

So what this all means is that you need to have a FWHP AND RWHP to know for sure.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-30-2007, 09:24 PM
eschaider's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
Posts: 2,741
Not Ranked     
Default

Don't forget the Flux Capacitor (FC). A partially charged FC can produce indeterminate changes in the sub-space field surrounding the oil filter and negatively impacting the dyno session.

Among, of course, a myriad of other things that result in having to re-torque your license plate bolts.
__________________


Help them do what they would have done if they had known what they could do.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-31-2007, 12:46 AM
Badsnake427's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster SC
Posts: 92
Not Ranked     
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaider
Don't forget the Flux Capacitor (FC). A partially charged FC can produce indeterminate changes in the sub-space field surrounding the oil filter and negatively impacting the dyno session.

Among, of course, a myriad of other things that result in having to re-torque your license plate bolts.
...and theDylithium Crystals may have erroded!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-30-2007, 11:34 AM
Gene Gorman's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Flagler Beach , Fl
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#2279 Alum.Shelby 484ci
Posts: 55
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Here's a simple equation I use:

Horsepower = never enough
I used to think that untill I built a 700hp supercharged C6 Corvette and now with my 484ci. Alum. Shelby block Superformance. You can over power a car. But it sure is fun.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy