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BOURRET 04-27-2008 12:16 PM
Manifold search
 
I am searching for a FE intake manifold C3AE 9425H (dual 4 barrels carbs) or a similar one . If you have one for sale, please send me a P.M.
This has to fit on a 482 alu Shelby block equipped with Edelbrock performer rpm alu heads.. I would accept to buy any other one providing the height is not higher than the original C3AE 9425H due to my hood clearance.
(My old one became too porous....)

RICK LAKE 04-27-2008 04:45 PM
Try E-Bay and the FE Forumn
 
BOURRET Have you tryed the FE forumn and E-Bay. I would start there. What car did this manifold come on? There is a club for just about every make,model, and year on the web. Rick

BOURRET 04-28-2008 12:09 AM
This manifold comes from a 63 FE....but the details are unknown since when I bought my Cobra ten years ago, its owner did not know anything about mechanical parts and that the previous owner (before the one I met) is impossible to reach....address unknow, no registered phone number.....
I know that the C3AE 9425H is a rare manifold, used for high performance. I will look on Mustang clubs as you suggest and other Fords;
Thanks for your reply.

Jac Mac 04-28-2008 03:20 AM
There is a '''J''' version of this on EBAY @ moment- Auction number---270230214968--- 1 day + to go.

undy 04-28-2008 04:12 AM
You need a medium riser to match your eboks. I don't believe that manifold will work for you. It's a 427 sourced low riser. You'll have to epoxy the bottom of the ports the get any kind of match. Your performance will sufffer too, especially with that 482. The medium risers came about in 65, if I remember correctly. Get one for the dual quad "WOW" factor but at the expense of quite a few ponies.

Dave

BOURRET 04-28-2008 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jac Mac (Post 838619)
There is a '''J''' version of this on EBAY @ moment- Auction number---270230214968--- 1 day + to go.
Thanks. I looked at it; I will try to obtain its exact dimensions. This could be a temporary help.

BOURRET 04-28-2008 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by undy (Post 838631)
You need a medium riser to match your eboks. I don't believe that manifold will work for you. It's a 427 sourced low riser. You'll have to epoxy the bottom of the ports the get any kind of match. Your performance will sufffer too, especially with that 482. The medium risers came about in 65, if I remember correctly. Get one for the dual quad "WOW" factor but at the expense of quite a few ponies.

Dave
Thanks for the remarks.
The height between the bottom of the manifold and its maximum height is very critical, I think I have about 1/4 inch clearance available!!!
My actual (porous C3EA 9425) had been carefully re-worked three years ago to match the Edelbrock performer cyl. heads.
What would you see to save the "ponies" ? Switch to a big single quad carb???

undy 04-28-2008 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOURRET (Post 838658)
Thanks for the remarks.
The height between the bottom of the manifold and its maximum height is very critical, I think I have about 1/4 inch clearance available!!!
My actual (porous C3EA 9425) had been carefully re-worked three years ago to match the Edelbrock performer cyl. heads.
What would you see to save the "ponies" ? Switch to a big single quad carb???
Depending what manifold height you have available you might not have enough room for even a good flowing single carb two plane, much less a single plane. I'm running a Blue Thunder 427 MR on my KC Pond 482. Keith said that it would flow well for my application (Stage II CNC'd eboks, 11 to 1 and 240/250 @ 640 hydraulic roller) It's actually about 1/4" taller than the Performer RPM. I'd like to switch to a Super Victor but like you am space limited for that height. What's your max clearance measurements, manifold base to carb pad height (front and rear) Blue Thunder does make a medium riser dual quad set up, not knowing if it'll meet your clearance requirements. I like the Blue Thunder manifolds as the are fairly accurate clones of the OEM stuff, with flow enhancements too.

Depending on your setup, probably +/- 20 hp drop... maybe more, on running a low riser.

Dave

BOURRET 04-28-2008 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by undy (Post 838669)
Depending what manifold height you have available you might not have enough room for even a good flowing single carb two plane, much less a single plane. I'm running a Blue Thunder 427 MR on my KC Pond 482. Keith said that it would flow well for my application (Stage II CNC'd eboks, 11 to 1 and 240/250 @ 640 hydraulic roller) It's actually about 1/4" taller than the Performer RPM. I'd like to switch to a Super Victor but like you am space limited for that height. What's your max clearance measurements, manifold base to carb pad height (front and rear) Blue Thunder does make a medium riser dual quad set up, not knowing if it'll meet your clearance requirements. I like the Blue Thunder manifolds as the are fairly accurate clones of the OEM stuff, with flow enhancements too.

Depending on your setup, probably +/- 20 hp drop... maybe more, on running a low riser.

Dave
I will go to my garage this evening (it is a few miles from my home) and I will make the measurements. I never looked at Blue Thunder until now but I am interested by your set up which seems excellent. A Blue Thunder dual quad could be the solution.
Thanks again!!!!.

undy 04-28-2008 10:02 AM
I couldn't find the specs but here's a pic..

Dave

http://www.survivalmotorsports.com/i...ront_small.jpg

BOURRET 04-28-2008 11:15 AM
The flow is very likely different from the FE C3AE9425H just looking at the openings in contact with the carburetors. It would worth trying. http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5...ssiondskb4.jpg

blykins 04-28-2008 12:56 PM
What about a Tunnel Wedge?

wtm442 04-28-2008 09:49 PM
http://www.ffcobra.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1584231

undy 04-29-2008 03:54 AM
I'd talk to Barry, Keith, George or Tom to get a professional FE builder's thoughts on the C3AE-H on a prepped 482 but IMO you'll be capping your HP dramatically. Can you lower the engine or drop your air cleaner any?

Dave

RICK LAKE 04-29-2008 04:18 AM
Another idea for the manifold
 
BOURRAT If you have to have this manifold for your car, Get it flow balanced for all the ports. Joe craine does a great job at this. If you need metal added to the bottom for more port surface, he can do this. It may not flow like a single plane BT manifold but the ports will be bigger and within 5% of each other. The cool thing is you can't is the magic work he does, but will feel it in the car. He is on the FE forum. Has done 40+ manifolds for the FE forum guys alone. Very good price and his work is beautiful. I would guess at a 20-40 cfm per port with some modes to the carb mounting area. If you want an e-mail address I will get it for you unless some one here aready has it. Rick L.

BOURRET 04-29-2008 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wtm442 (Post 838869)
I just sent a message to the seller.

BOURRET 04-29-2008 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by undy (Post 838903)
I'd talk to Barry, Keith, George or Tom to get a professional FE builder's thoughts on the C3AE-H on a prepped 482 but IMO you'll be capping your HP dramatically. Can you lower the engine or drop your air cleaner any?

Dave
Tried to phone to Keith but he was not there today. I think he will be of great help.
Lowering the engine would be difficult and time consuming. And the air filter is already minimum in height.

BOURRET 04-30-2008 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RICK LAKE (Post 838905)
BOURRAT If you have to have this manifold for your car, Get it flow balanced for all the ports. Joe craine does a great job at this. If you need metal added to the bottom for more port surface, he can do this. It may not flow like a single plane BT manifold but the ports will be bigger and within 5% of each other. The cool thing is you can't is the magic work he does, but will feel it in the car. He is on the FE forum. Has done 40+ manifolds for the FE forum guys alone. Very good price and his work is beautiful. I would guess at a 20-40 cfm per port with some modes to the carb mounting area. If you want an e-mail address I will get it for you unless some one here aready has it. Rick L.
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