Help me identify this GT40

[Jac Mac]

Ask the guy to take a good pic of the underside of the tub and same of the motor toward front of engine bay, plus front uprights, there are enough of us watching this thread that have enough info to give a yes or no based on pics of those items.

[Dan Stryffeler]

Actually Ron,

I think her center cluster is located just about perfectly!

- Dan

[Bill Kesner]

They both look like kits to me. I guess the father likes telling the kid some whoppers as to their originality.

- Bill -

[LMH]

Are you guys talking about the girl on the hood?
I think those are fake!
Larry

[Great Asp]

The body is too nice (as is the paint) to be original. Why would you do that to an original anyway?

I also do not think the 427 is original.

I sent a PM to the guy, I'll see what I get back.

Thanks for the help men!

E

[Great Asp]

Can you guys tell what car this is from the engine pic?

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[race-it]

Jac Mac, Fact or Fiction ?

Several months ago an original blue Cobra Team Jacket came up for auction on E-Bay. This is the story that perhaps only you can prove true or false.

The seller was not the owner but a friend of the owner. The seller placed a picture of the jacket with a short discription that read: "Rare 1965 Cobra Team Jacket as given to staff who were to travel to Le Mans with the race team, this jacket was given to a staff member but for some reason did not go with the team. The Jacket has been hanging in closet last 40 years with plastic cover on it. Size is 40 and is in very good condition. This jacket is owned by a T. Banks who worked in the factory on the assembly line on GT 350,then on Cobras and ended up in the race department. The story goes he was bumped off the race team going to Le Mans by a relitive of C Shelby. Then he was drafted to the Army. The jacket was made by " Whitings" of LA."

What was interesting to me was that the blue Jackets were made in 63 and 64. Carroll changed design in 65. The jacket howeaver was to be worn at the 1965 Le Mans and yet has the 1965 GT 350 patch on the sleve and an Iskidarian patch on the left front chest with the Carroll Shelby patch and Good Year patch on the right front chest. The back has the white COBRA letters. My research tells me that in1965 several GT Mustangs were sent to Europe for the first time. I have an original press release from TWA that describes the Le Mans Cars they were flying over to France. three GT 40"s and two Daytona Coupes on June 9Th, and that the Shelby America race team would by flying TWA the next flight over the pole on June 12 Th. ( States Le Mans shipments total 40,000 LBS and are valued at $200,000.00)

The Story gets more interesting. In 1965 Carroll Shelby invited a special guest to the Le Mans race. This quest was the famous Carol Conner song writer of "Hey Little Cobra" first released by the Rip Chords in 1963, then by groups such as Jan and Dean and the Beach Boys. I wounder if she was the reason for which the owner of the jacket was bumped from the flight to France in 1965.

The story gets more interesting. At the 1965 Le Mans race, Shell Oil company made a plaque with a picture of the start of Le Mans and includes an article and picture of Ms.Carol Conner at the race. This plaque was presented to Carroll Shelby who signed it "Love You Carol, Your friend Carroll Shelby. Carol Conner then signed it with her name and "Shut em down" trade mark from the hit song "Hey Little Cobra" and presented it to me.

Shortly after receiving the jacket I came across an original 1965 Winter Nationals Championship Jacket with the same Iskidarian Patch on the front and a large Iskidarian patch on the back. I researched Iskidarian and found that he did supply parts for the 1965 Ford Racing Team GT 350 Mustang and Shelby America.

So how many like new 1963/64 Cobra Team Jackets with the new 1965 GT 350 Mustang/Iskidarian patches are our there?

You might be the only one who can verify this story since the original jacket owner lives in New Zealand and perhaps you or someone you know knows Mr. T Banks.

Thank's Jim

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Great Asp

Can you guys tell what car this is from the engine pic?

...looks like ERA to me.

[LMH]

Originally Posted by computerworks

...looks like ERA to me.

I'd say ERA also. Look at the fuse box.
Larry

[1985 CCX]

Era ........

[Joe Wicked]

I thought ERA from the fuse box, it looks exactly like the one I helped troubleshoot the electrical issues on. I am not enough of an expert to really form any opinions though. I am just now beginning to pick out the differences in these cars.

[Bill D]

Thanks Gordon!! at first I thought it might be the RF GT40 you built and the building was your shop.

Cheers
Bill

[Historybuff]

I don't have Ronnie Spains book but just to show you how real events can contradict what is in books, I am waiting for one of the two British classic car magazines to come out with the story next month on the puke green
GT40 roadster that Bondie flipped on the Targa. It was thrown away and I wonder if Spain lists it as destroyed.

Now you see it racing in British racing events. How did it go from "destroyed" to being on the track at Goodwood? I am predicting it was "thrown away gently" and after a few decades whoever interrred it dug it up. Or is this a new chassis using the destroyed cars chassis no?

I also am still waiting for someone to narrow down the location of the GT40 7-liter targa that won Sebring in '66. That Ferrari red car was thrown away in a Los Angeles suburb landfill on the orders of Carroll Smith. I think Los Angeles is a kinder place geologically to bury a car than damp Old Blighty so I expect that one to be resurrected as soon as the Shelby employee that was there at the interment can point us in the right direction