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Old 09-17-2010, 01:11 PM
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Is the turn signal supposed to self cancel? Also, does your steering hub rub the turn signal housing making a funny rubbing sound? (only heard with engine off)
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:33 PM
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Is the turn signal supposed to self cancel? Also, does your steering hub rub the turn signal housing making a funny rubbing sound? (only heard with engine off)
Nope and nope.
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Actually, I understand there are some adjustment screws so you can get it to self cancel. One of these days I'll get around to messing with that so mine will self-cancel....
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Mine supposedly has an adjustment. One side cancels, the other doesn't. I've read the adjustment procedure, but haven't gotten around to it as yet.
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Actually, I understand there are some adjustment screws so you can get it to self cancel. One of these days I'll get around to messing with that so mine will self-cancel....
Oh, come on now. Just leave your turn signal on just like all the other old man do.

Treat it like your fan switch. Turn it on and off when you can.
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Oh, come on now. Just leave your turn signal on just like all the other old man do.
I resemble that remark.
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The switch can rub on the back of the steering wheel; sounds like yours is. Mine did too as delivered If you loosen the set screw on top you can slide the switch away from the back of the wheel and eliminate the contact.

I guess I will have to play with the switch now and see if I can activate the self canceling.

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The switch can rub on the back of the steering wheel; sounds like yours is. Mine did too as delivered If you loosen the set screw on top you can slide the switch away from the back of the wheel and eliminate the contact.

I guess I will have to play with the switch now and see if I can activate the self canceling.

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what do you mean by screw on top? I will look into all of this as my winter project. Thanks!
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There's a phillips screw that locks the switch assembly to the column. If you loosen the screw it will adjust around and in and out a little to get the clearance you need off the wheel hub. If you pull the steering wheel off there is a screw or bump of some kind sticking out of the steering shaft. It will be centred on the cams that come out when you put the switch on.
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There's a phillips screw that locks the switch assembly to the column. If you loosen the screw it will adjust around and in and out a little to get the clearance you need off the wheel hub. If you pull the steering wheel off there is a screw or bump of some kind sticking out of the steering shaft. It will be centred on the cams that come out when you put the switch on.
cool, I'll check it out thanks!
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There are at least two adjustments that may help. Here is a photographic illustration of the adjustment that mickmate describes: http://www.craigscobras.com/tips/blinker/index.htm The other thing you can do, as described in some of the posts above, is loosen the Phillips head screw behind the turn signal lever, then adjust (rotate) the signal lever assembly left/right (or up/down) to best position. The lever in my SPF was at the 3 o'clock position. Recommended position is closer to 2 o'clock. These two adjustments helped with my cancellation issue, but it still was not right. I spent some money to buy a new switch indicator (not cheap), available from Hillbank Motorsports, http://www.shelbyshop.net/product_in...ucts_id=156173, had that installed, and my turn signal now cancels perfectly on both sides. This is obviously not a performance issue, but it bugged me until I got it right.
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Where can i buy the switch? I was going to purchase it from Finishline, but i dont think they carry the part any longer.
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They are all over ebay, some better quality than others:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Vo...e#ht_500wt_956
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I clamped 2 tabs to the steering shaft. They hit the canceling tabs on the signal unit after your turn. Adjust the shaft tabs to where you want them, & clamp them tight. Works great. Did it on both cars. Ron
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Im not trying to hijack your thread and i apologize for posting in it, but which year model VW switch do i want to purchase? I assume the 65 and before since it functions only as a turn signal switch and not a dimmer switch as well
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Im not trying to hijack your thread and i apologize for posting in it, but which year model VW switch do i want to purchase? I assume the 65 and before since it functions only as a turn signal switch and not a dimmer switch as well
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I think any 62-67 Beetle will work. Local auto parts stores carry them as well in both AC Delco and BWD.
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I pulled the steering wheel, adjusted the turn signal switch so it does not rub the steering wheel hub anymore. That was easy. But I did not find any screw on the hub to adjust to make it self cancel. The switch itself does have a provision for it, but the steering wheel hub does not. Perhaps, another hub would have this provision.

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It's not on the hub it's on the shaft. They need a small flat with a tapped hole.
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It's not on the hub it's on the shaft. They need a small flat with a tapped hole.
so the shaft itself should have a threaded hole there already or is it something I would have to drill?
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Yes it needs a drilled and tapped hole in the shaft to line up with the cancelling cams. Then that needs a slot and a short strip of metal. The steering is only 3 turns lock to lock on a Cobra so the screw needs to hold the blade right between the cams or else you need a whole turn of the wheel to cancel directionals. There's some pics of the shaft here http://www.csxinfo.net/web/modules/s...p?topic=1044.0 I have put them in several cars so if you need a hand with it let me know.
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