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peterpjb 01-22-2019 09:13 AM

@restocreation

one question occures while reading...

what was your plan in the first place?

building a car for selling it and earning some money
or building it for your own joy?

rodneym 01-22-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1457198)
@restocreation

one question occures while reading...

what was your plan in the first place?

building a car for selling it and earning some money
or building it for your own joy?

Excellent question. If he made the car to sell for profit, he made a BAD choice.
If he made it to enjoy, he made a great choice (subjective, really, but we can grant him that one).

The day will come when I sell my hot rod, and I'll take a bath. But I built it for me to enjoy it. Anybody who is looking to get their money back, or make a profit, from a hobby car isn't being realistic. Sure there were times when you could get a roller for $XXX, then the prices would go up and you could sell it for more, but that's NOT a hard and fast rule. If you can't afford to have that "asset" disappear without a trace (or recover a dollar from insurance) and not sweat a dime, then you have no business owning a fun car as absurd as a Cobra.

Now, about that black paint...

patrickt 01-22-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1457199)
The day will come when I sell my hot rod, and I'll take a bath...

There's still time to add a second roll bar and paint it beige.:cool:

rodneym 01-22-2019 09:50 AM

That would make it worth ERA 732...

patrickt 01-22-2019 09:52 AM

Wait a minute, this car isn't the same as the "flood car," right? I think that was a CSX car. Did that guy end up making money on that deal?:confused:

rodneym 01-22-2019 09:54 AM

No, you're thinking of rsimeos and the Iron Man car that accidentally ran over his wife's foot.

RodKnock 01-22-2019 09:57 AM

I had to go back and look at resto's history, because I was confused. Resto built/rebuilt the "Ironman" 427 S/C (Kirkham).

Snakehunter rebuilt the "flood car" CSX4158.

patrickt 01-22-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1457204)
No, you're thinking of rsimeos and the Iron Man car that accidentally ran over his wife's foot.

You've managed to combine three or four separate horror stories in to one big f*** up. :LOL: It's hard to make a buck in the Cobra replica game. You're way better off as just looking at it like a trip to the islands. When it's over, you will have enjoyed yourself, but you will have less money in your pocket than when you started.:cool:

Ron Scarboro 01-22-2019 09:59 AM

All those issues and you rolled it into a “no reserve” auction? Hmmm....

RodKnock 01-22-2019 10:00 AM

rsimoes built (work actually by David Wagner) a 527ci Kirkham 427 S/C, spent about $127,000 (and that was a very long time ago) and ultimately sold it on eBay for $88,000. That was an awesome build. I think I put in a bid on that car.

RodKnock 01-22-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1457206)
You've managed to combine three or four separate horror stories in to one big f*** up.

Can we please keep these great Cobra build stories straight for heaven's sake? :D

RodKnock 01-22-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1457201)
There's still time to add a second roll bar and paint it beige.:cool:

Talk about a value killer. Beige paint, 428 engine and two roll bars. Might as well drive it into the local river and collect the insurance money to be made whole. :LOL:

After quiickly reviewing Resto's build thread for his Kirkham 289 FIA, I have to say, there seemed to be a lot of "custom" work done to that car. And the Ford Racing 363 with the high port heads wasn't the best choice IMO. But I'm a sample of one.

rodneym 01-22-2019 11:04 AM

If that was one person's story, it would have been worthy of a Lifetime channel movie of the week.

patrickt 01-22-2019 11:09 AM

Of all my favorite Cobra-Gone-Bad stories, rsimoes takes the cake. It's followed closely by Tinman's sad story, but the fact that there was an injury on that one takes it off the table.

rodneym 01-22-2019 11:38 AM

True. I didn't mean to make light of the situation. Just that it was a saga.

patrickt 01-22-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1457216)
True. I didn't mean to make light of the situation. Just that it was a saga.

Well, last I heard everything turned out ok. That's been a while now though.

rodneym 01-22-2019 11:54 AM

Hopefully the new owner is enjoying it.
They may have even stayed away from here due to the story...

patrickt 01-22-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1457219)
Hopefully the new owner is enjoying it.
They may have even stayed away from here due to the story...

Last time I chatted with him, he had decided to keep the car and "give it one last chance." Apparently, all family members were on board with that decision.%/

Phx Mike 01-22-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1457188)
Well, nothing like a little "sour grapes" for breakfast.:LOL::LOL: And I suppose it's just human nature to blame others when you lose money on a deal, but to take full credit for everything when you make it.;)

Agree - and BTW I have had nothing but great support from David and his guys.

The OP here knew what he was buying going in - yes aluminum is softer than steel and it dents and scratches. You polish it out (not that hard) or you live with the road scars (badge of honor). Take some responsibility here and quit moaning because you didn’t make a profit.

LMH 01-22-2019 06:55 PM

At a local Cars and Coffee get together a few month ago, there was a Kirkham 427 that was unpainted, kind of dirty, wheels had brake dust on them, engine wasn't bright and shinny... you get the idea. I liked it and I usually don't like unpainted cars. The body was what I would describe as oxidized brushed. Beyond filed for sure but not polished! It had a 'used' look to it, a couple road scars, a couple small dents but it was pretty cool! Only thing I didn't like was the polished stripes but whatever.
Larry



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