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Old 11-01-2009, 04:51 PM
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"The good old days before Obama" is when this mess began. He may not be doing a stellar job of fixing the damage, but he certainly did not initiate the conditions that caused it.
You're right. It was Clinton and Greenspan.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:12 AM
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You're right. It was Clinton and Greenspan.
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Actually, Bush Sr was the one who was trying to get NAFTA passed.

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I was wondering how you were doing. I remember a few months ago that you were talking about having to let some people go, and I saw that your cars were listed for sale as part of your signature. I hope things turn around for you and the rest of the country soon.

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:24 AM
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Unhappy Sorry to see and hear

All business is just plain lousy, 2 years ago I had 12 guy's now we are down to 5 and that may be changing before year end.

Politicians are saying the recovery is here....I don't see it! If you ask me it is getting worse!

From my standpoint the wood and paper industry is going to get worse, we used to do alot of infrastructure work for the papermills around here.
However not many of them left around, do to the electronic era. The print industry is going by the wayside.

I would urge everyone to think about every purchase they make, where was it made how did it get here.
We need to get this country's livelyhood and infrastructure back.

7 + million out of work and just where are they going to go for a job??
Our manufacturing is going or gone,the service sector because of technology is going to Asia or less prosperous locations.

Just the cost of having one employee is cost prohibitive compared to those locations not to include their actual wage.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:43 AM
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Two days ago they just closed the last mill around here. They have one that is still working part time and doing very limited sawing, mostly salvaged timber from the fires last summer to keep it from rotting but for the most part they are having to store it. I don't see much recover around here either.

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