Shooter advised Obama transition

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Here's a News flash! Were goin down the ****tter at full throttle.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115230

[SP01715]

You won't here about this in the socialist main stream media.

[Gunner]

So the guy was a minor adviser on an inconsequential paper published by a third-party think tank. Literally thousands of such papers are produced every year by hundreds of sources referencing hundreds of thousands of "participants." Onlly a handful of those papers ever get read at a policy level and their impact even then is questionable.

That's hardly equivalent to "advised [the] Obama transition." I think it's a lot more disturbing that the guy was retained, educated and trained by the US Army with the obvious red flags at regular intervals. And gosh, all under Commander Bush, too...

[Buzz]

News flash - I heard the POS perp was in Connecticut once!! Isn't that where Bush is from??!! Hmmm... the plot thickens...

[Anthony]

I heard that this psychiatrist gave a "grands round" lecture, and spoke only of how important the Koran was, and that all non-believers should be decapitated with hot oil being poured down their veins. It left the audience speechless.

He was a crack-pot waiting to explode, which he did.

[bomelia]

Nuttin like a crazy Muslim to bring the best out amongst us.

Mike

[bomelia]

BTW, this "devout" Muslim, "great American" strip club fan has got a date with the needle. In his case, I hope they forget the first injection of pain killer. Just go with 2 & 3. Don't phuk with Texan folk.

Mike

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by bomelia

BTW, this "devout" Muslim, "great American" strip club fan has got a date with the needle. In his case, I hope they forget the first injection of pain killer. Just go with 2 & 3. Don't phuk with Texan folk.

Mike

Maybe spend about $0.40 for a .223 round. Price of ammo is up.

[bomelia]

Wanna see hypocrisy? A white cop arrests a black man in Cambridge, MA for breaking and entering, Obama calls the cops stupid. A muslim nut case on a CIA watch list (radical postings on the web) kills 13 people and injures 30+ on a military base and Obama insists we must not rush to judgment (is he a muslim terrorist?).

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by bomelia

Nuttin like a crazy Muslim to bring the best out amongst us.

Mike

Why thank you Mikey - I always knew you held me in high esteem.

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Why thank you Mikey - I always knew you held me in high esteem.

I was not referring to you.

Steve, I think this has more to do with Obama's relationship to the Islamic faith.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by bomelia

I was not referring to you.

Steve, I think this has more to do with Obama's relationship to the Islamic faith.

I'm devastated.

Now that I've gotten over it though - if I truly believed the leader of my country was a sellout/sympathizer to radical terrorist enemies of my country, I sure wouldn't be sitting around griping about it on a social forum. I'd be getting ready for civil war.

[Joe Wicked]

Another problem that has to be addressed too is the fact that this is a terrorist from inside our military ranks. Such terrorists can change the outcome of a fire fight quickly since they are already behind our lines and trusted. I also want to know how he is allowed to CHOOSE to not be deployed. If I had ever refused a deployment I would have been court marshaled before I could finish the word NO.

[Buzz]

I understand your burning need to blame this and any other unpleasant event on Obama, but the extent to which you are stretching circumstantial issues is laughable at best.

This crackpot could have cared less who is in the White House and whether or not their foreign policy is one of "appeasement". He would have done what he did even if Atilla the Hun himself was president.

Yes he may have gotten fuel for his fire from the rantings of a radical imam and he clearly sympathized with the Islamist jihad, but his meltdown appears to have been an individual act and a far cry from an organized act of foreign sponsored terrorism on US soil. In spite of the fact that his beliefs are rooted in Islam, this is more and act of domestic terrorism than anything else.

Now, if it turns out that he was a sleeper agent or a "winter soldier" implanted in the US military by Al Quaeda, then that's a whole different story. Highly unlikely though. Not every a$$hole who shouts religious slogans while going on a shooting rampage is a bona fide foreign terrorist.

I know I'm wasting my time going against the excited clamour to turn this event into an Obama indictment so I'll bow out and let you have your fun.

One thing I think is worthy of discussion though is the politically incorrect question of whether it is even possible for a devout Muslim to serve loyally in the US Armed Forces given todays global realities - and what measures could/should the US military be taking to address this concern. I will start a new thread so as not to drag this lynching party off topic.

[bomelia]

We will see. Bush got blamed for crap at a much lower level than this.

And yes, Obama is an apeaser. The VERY first "I'm sorry for..." proved it.

As for the PC incorrrect issue, I already brought that up in this or another similar thread. Our soldiers should never have to worry about the loyalty of other soldiers.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by bomelia

We will see. Bush got blamed for crap at a much lower level than this.

You may very well be right but I stopped playing tit for tat when I was five.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by Buzz

I understand your burning need to blame this and any other unpleasant event on Obama, but the extent to which you are stretching circumstantial issues is laughable at best.

This crackpot could have cared less who is in the White House and whether or not their foreign policy is one of "appeasement". He would have done what he did even if Atilla the Hun himself was president.

It has been reported that he thought Obama would pull troops out of the middle east, and was not happy that it did not happen. This comes from one of his family members.

Yes he may have gotten fuel for his fire from the rantings of a radical imam and he clearly sympathized with the Islamist jihad, but his meltdown appears to have been an individual act and a far cry from an organized act of foreign sponsored terrorism on US soil. In spite of the fact that his beliefs are rooted in Islam, this is more and act of domestic terrorism than anything else.

Now, if it turns out that he was a sleeper agent or a "winter soldier" implanted in the US military by Al Quaeda, then that's a whole different story. Highly unlikely though. Not every a$$hole who shouts religious slogans while going on a shooting rampage is a bona fide foreign terrorist.

He had contact with a Imam in Jordan that is connected to Al Queda (and attempted to make contact with Al Queda himself), and he had worshiped with this same Imam when he was in Virginia. The CIA has wiretaps of these calls. This same Imam has praised him since the shootings. He may not have been planted by Al Queda, but I definitely think the facts are staring to show that this guy was a terrorist. He was motivated by religion and possibly a foriegn Imam with connections to terrorist IMO.

I know I'm wasting my time going against the excited clamour to turn this event into an Obama indictment so I'll bow out and let you have your fun.

One thing I think is worthy of discussion though is the politically incorrect question of whether it is even possible for a devout Muslim to serve loyally in the US Armed Forces given todays global realities - and what measures could/should the US military be taking to address this concern. I will start a new thread so as not to drag this lynching party off topic.

They need to be screened IMO. This guy was already on the radar, but nobody did anything because it was not politically correct.

[392cobra]

OPINION/ANALYSIS:

The general is eager to get the situation in hand, but he's got his tactics backward. And not just the general. So have a lot of other people in the government. Judgment flees in the face of a challenge by goody-goody intentions.

The prospect of mistreatment of Muslims in the uniform is such a concern the general has told his officers "to be on the lookout for it." The tragedy at Fort Hood was bad, he says, but "it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well." He told an interviewer for CNN, as if in a footnote, that he further wants the Army to investigate how Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in the Fort Hood massacre, got to be a senior officer when he was such a known collaborator in radical Islamic causes.

Diversity is good. Maybe not as good as the ability to shoot straight, though in the modern, politically correct Army, you never can tell. George Washington, Robert E. Lee, U.S. Grant, John J. Pershing, George S. Patton and even Dwight D. Eisenhower -- pretty good soldiers all -- never acted as if diversity is more important than the ability to kill bad guys and break things that ought to be broken. So far as we know, those worthies in the wars of yesteryear never tried to make allowances for troublemakers in uniform. A Nazi or a follower of Shinto in the ranks would have been booted out at once.

The intimidation of so much of the government becomes total, so great is the fear of being accused of hurting the feelings of evildoers. Winston Churchill got it right in the run-up to World War II, when good people couldn't bear to look evil in the face. "The malice of the wicked," he said, "is reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...home_headlines

[Jamo]

Let's keep it calm, folks...and on topic. As to whether Muslims can serve in the military...see the other thread started by Buzz.

[392cobra]