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Old 11-26-2009, 10:43 AM
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Good post Tom, long but interesting read. I found this qoute, among many other worthy quotes to be enlightening.

The man noted in the quote, Mr. Hall, was a CIA interogater who used torture, not coercision, to ply his trade. He was bitter that he was held personally responsible and lost his job as a result of "tree huggers".

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Hall sees the loss of his career as dramatic proof that the CIA sold out to the "tree huggers" two decades ago, and points with scorn to a directive from President Bill Clinton that effectively barred intelligence agents from doing business with unsavory characters. The full-scale U.S. retreat from the uglier side of espionage is well documented—but has, by all accounts, been sharply reversed in the aftermath of 9/11.
I have no sympathy for Mr. Hall, he should have lost his job! Bush/Cheney moving backward to utilize torture once again (just calling it like it is) was a setback for the USA. Now being corrected. We are either a civilized people, or were not. We either keep our promise to such things as the Geneva Convention, or we don't.

Coercion methods of getting people to talk appear to be incredibly effective, when done by a skilled interogater. Torture is the short cut and excuse for a less than skilled interogater.

Jamo, I see your point, like a deer in the headlights. Just my opinion, I don't see that look with Obama.

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