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Calling the military Socialist is a bit of a stretch...
As I recall the Officers ate better, got paid more, ect... Definately privelage with rank (as well as resposibility). I'm not a combat veteran, just a generic one I guess. But that was what they wanted me to do. (Fix electronic stuff) Basically, my job like many was to keep the kill ratio in our favor. Hopefully, what I did saved one of our guy's life, but I'll never know. For a lot of folks, someone's death is nothing more than a target dissapearing off a screen. (if you even get to see that) Anyway, like the saying goes the military is there to protect democracy not practice it. |
OK, I have the answer to the question.
WHY do you worry about Socialism? On a sliding scale, at one end you have Capitalism and the other Communism. Somewhere between between the two is Socialism. Where between the two is Socialism viewed? As many Americans I think would view it, they see Socialism closer to Communism then Capitalism. In a global view as Americans, me included, view Socialism as a ride down a slippery slope. So there is your answer! |
RonBo,
Thanks for your service. I too did electronics. I love ya but you have confused communism and socialism. Under socialism the more work you do (the higher your education and time served in the military) the more rewards you get. The government controls production and resource allocation. Check Websters. Our congresspeople and senators promote this confusion in the speeches they make. They have a lot to lose if things change. The military is there to protect America and our allies like Norway and Sweden, who are socialist, from attacks. Period. What you quoted is just a saying used in the military to control the men. I heard it a million times. Ralphy , Thank you, I agree. Socialism (streets, highways, public schools, the military, social security, public grants for research and so on) is needed but best used in small doses. Medicare is a great victory for the insurance companies as it takes the old people who need more health care off their books and on to the publics. I support single payer insurance for everyone in the form of HR676. Google HR676, its a quick read. What we have now is corporate control of the people in Washington. SUNMAN Merry Christmas and God Bless |
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It is the job of the Federal Government to provide what no entity can provide, individual or business. |
Ralphy,
100% agree with you. Except for what Santa has to deliver to the kids. God Bless You. Sunman Merry Christmas |
Santa will have no problem making it to ATL this year. He does have Raindeer!
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For those who think that the health insurance companies profits are "too high": Aren't the profits in the other 34 industries that are more profitable than health insurance companies "too higher" and therefore, shouldn't they be taken over also?
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Who's taking over what?
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Why can't you just answer the question? This will ultimately be a government take over of private insurance...
The question put another way so as not to distract you for the real point: if government can assert itself the way that it is doing with health care, why shouldn't it be able do the same with any other industry? |
Because were not a Socialist regime? :)
There is a big difference between regulation and take over. Regulation is what the Gov does when needed or required, always has, always will. |
I was really hoping that someone here on CC that is from or still in a socialist country would reply so everyone here could get the answers straight from the horses mouth "so to speak".
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I have been on government health care all my life. With Tricare I have the best health care that anyone could want. I have a young friend who is a union carpenter. In 15 years he has paid over $75,000 to his union health care "company" (Blue Cross/ Blue Shield). His prescription cap is $5,000 per year. He has just been told he has HepC. Treatment with Interferon costs over $10,000 per year in the USA ( cost is less in Europe). He was denied and was told "Go home and wait to die". They got his money, he's got squat. It is immoral for stockholders to profit from people dieing. Private insurance is good, UNTIL YOU NEED IT. Private insurance "companies" produce nothing and just suck dieing peoples money. Those other companies produce a product we need. IN GOD WE TRUST?, ...BS. Jesus healed for free. HR676 ... HR676... HR676...HR676... HR676 Sunman, born in a military hospital and on government health care all my life. Lived in Germany 7 years. They love there health care, over 200 private companies regulated by the government with access for all. |
Wow, I had no idea the drugs cost that much, man I could have been screwed! I took the Hep C treatment 6 or 7 years ago, pills and a shot every three days (it was hell). Got cured though, thank God, literally. I had great insurance at the time that didn't limit the drug dollars. $10 co-pay if I recall correctly.
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There is another programmer at work that has HEP-C. He took all of the shots and whatever else that told him to take. After about a year they told him that there is nothing else they can do. His body is not doing any better with the treatments. He is off of any medications and is just working and waiting to die. They say he could only last 6 months or 10 years. They have no idea. Oh yeah, Kaiser insurance.
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Your right, Thank God. Glad to hear your OK. Success rate is only about 60%. If he quits work and can prove with 1040 he is below poverty level the drug company Schering Plough will supply free drugs. But then he has no insurance, no money, no home and the doctors wont see him. He is divorcing his wife on paper so if worse comes to worse she will be protected from bankruptcy. There is a 2 or 3 year lookback but for now he is in good health and it takes years to die. Is this the America our women and men are fighting and dieing for? Sunman tcrist On a positive note a new drug is about to come out (Telaprevir) that you take with the interferon for a year and success rate goes up to about 90% even if you failed your first time. |
My question still stands:
If government can assert itself the way that it is doing with health care, why shouldn't it be able do the same with any other industry? If you think that Obama is aiming for just more regulation and not a single payor system, then you all are just not paying close enough attention. |
My answer still stands, what part of it don't you get? We are NOT a Socialist country, which is precisely what this thread is all about. Thanks for asking, see my signature line...
He might have to wait five years after transferring assetts if he goes the Medicaid route, as one option. I THINK the basic requirements for Medicaid are: Keep your house and furniture if you live in it, doesn't count against assetts. Keep one car. Assett's (bank account, savings, 401K, Life Insurance policy, other "monies") limited to $2,000 Tranfer of assett's will be include if they were transferred within the past five years from the time of application. For Medicaid, you really do have to be really broke. For the regular hard working guy who fall's on hard times, he is in WORSE shape than the very poor. Yup, something is wrong with this insurance picture. |
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